Poignard
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"Hello! Is that UberEats? I need an urgent delivery of popcorn. The big bags, please."
.. there's not that much difference at the end of the day .... it's the sailing that matters.Living the Dream - YouTube
my crew seamed to enjoy the confines of a contessa and lack of speed bearable.
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Steveeasy
Perhaps an MGB might be a better comparison (than Lotus Elan) - as a volume produced “sporty” car which is pretty looking, practical and reliable, but not spacious or fast by modern standards. And as such sensible classic if you like these things.A Contessa isn't for me, even free, but is spending silly money on one any different from spending silly money on, say, a 1960s Lotus Elan? Great fun, perhaps, but cramped, uncomfortable and not particularly quick by modern standards.
If you've got the money, fine but, AFIAC, nostalgia really isn't what it used to be.
"Hello! Is that UberEats? I need an urgent delivery of popcorn. The big bags, please."
Yes make sure it’s a big big bucket too."Hello! Is that UberEats? I need an urgent delivery of popcorn. The big bags, please."
Typical GTI driver.Perhaps an MGB might be a better comparison (than Lotus Elan) - as a volume produced “sporty” car which is pretty looking, practical and reliable, but not spacious or fast by modern standards. And as such sensible classic if you like these things.
PS Way back in the day I swapped from an MGB roadster to one of the very first 1600cc 5sp Golf GTi imported to the UK.
The were only 4 years apart in build date - but decades apart in design and performance. Never looked back.
Yep. I had one.Typical GTI driver.
Back in the day, I had a reasonably well sorted Cooper S - a proper one, not the diesel monstrosities you see these days. A few decades later, I had as unromantic car as you could imagine, a diesel Focus estate. I reckon I could have got the Focus round a track at least as fast as the Mini, and I know which one I'd rather drive a long distance.PS Way back in the day I swapped from an MGB roadster to one of the very first 1600cc 5sp Golf GTi imported to the UK.
The were only 4 years apart in build date - but decades apart in design and performance. Never looked back.
I doubt a focus would come anywhere near a sorted mini, particularly with someone like Nick at the helm.Back in the day, I had a reasonably well sorted Cooper S - a proper one, not the diesel monstrosities you see these days. A few decades later, I had as unromantic car as you could imagine, a diesel Focus estate. I reckon I could have got the Focus round a track at least as fast as the Mini, and I know which one I'd rather drive a long distance.
No - when I got my early 1600cc GTi it was one of the first in the UK, and I still have the edition of Motor Sport with rave review.Typical GTI driver.
It was tongue in cheekNo - when I got my early 1600cc GTi it was one of the first in the UK, and I still have the edition of Motor Sport with rave review.
It was a few years later and the 1800cc and the (inferior / heavier) Mk2 that the city yuppee types started buying them
I drive a diesel Ford focus estate now. Nothing better for hauling dingies. outboard and a host of sails and the usual garbage a few 100 miles every 3 or weeks.Back in the day, I had a reasonably well sorted Cooper S - a proper one, not the diesel monstrosities you see these days. A few decades later, I had as unromantic car as you could imagine, a diesel Focus estate. I reckon I could have got the Focus round a track at least as fast as the Mini, and I know which one I'd rather drive a long distance.
We have about 3.5 miles to our mooring. The most expeditious transport for that is without doubt electric. Our Contessa owning friend uses his Macan for much the same trip. Even though our car is bigger, cleaner, more comfortable, much faster, and a fraction of the cost to run. What can I say?I drive a diesel Ford focus estate now. Nothing better for hauling dingies. outboard and a host of sails and the usual garbage a few 100 miles every 3 or weeks.
Steveeasy
420 miles each way!!!! And I’ve a mooring sat empty on the Hamble. Think I need a better form of transport!!We have about 3.5 miles to our mooring. The most expeditious transport for that is without doubt electric. Our Contessa owning friend uses his Macan for much the same trip. Even though our car is bigger, cleaner, more comfortable, much faster, and a fraction of the cost to run. What can I say?
Not complaining but just intrigued why no Rival 32 has been mentioned. BTW mine is named after the three daughters of the first owner.Ours is also named after it’s 1st owners cat.
With that sort of trip, a private jet starts to make sense420 miles each way!!!! And I’ve a mooring sat empty on the Hamble. Think I need a better form of transport!!
Steveeasy
I’ve always thought the closest motoring analogy to the Contessa 32 has to be the Morgan 4/4 (one of which I bought new in 2011 and kept for 5 years).Perhaps an MGB might be a better comparison (than Lotus Elan) - as a volume produced “sporty” car which is pretty looking, practical and reliable, but not spacious or fast by modern standards. And as such sensible classic if you like these things.
PS Way back in the day I swapped from an MGB roadster to one of the very first 1600cc 5sp Golf GTi imported to the UK.
The were only 4 years apart in build date - but decades apart in design and performance. Never looked back.
I’ve always thought the closest motoring analogy to the Contessa 32 has to be the Morgan 4/4 (one of which I bought new in 2011 and kept for 5 years).
Slow, cold, leaky but also charming and beautiful to behold. They are loved by their owners for their shortcomings almost as much as for their qualities.

That can't be right. The co32 can't be more than an hour quicker than the great Fulmar?In fairness it's the Blakes seacocks that normally leak not the boat. As for slowness they tend to beat most modern cruising boats of any size, round an inshore course.
Modern cruising boats are what most opinionated people have......... though in their mind they sail a Mumm 36
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I daresay it can, in a solid 25kn of breeze and 7 hardened racers on board. The Fulmar has probsbly chickened out of flying the kite as ‘er down below is trying to make breadThat can't be right. The co32 can't be more than an hour quicker than the great Fulmar?
Tongue slightly in cheek.
There is no context as to what these single set of results relate to - but I don’t think anybody would realistically claim that if sailed to the same standard of crew and sails a CO32 would finish nearly an hour ahead of a similarly competitive Grand Soleil 37. Or most of the other boats there. So some context needed.That can't be right. The co32 can't be more than an hour quicker than the great Fulmar?
Tongue slightly in cheek.