Is a Contessa 32 basically a man cave for Boomers longing for the halcyon days of the 70s?

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The September Issue of yachting monthly contains 14 pages dedicated to the Contessa 32, and it's not the first time considerable coverage has been given to this and other classics from the 70s. The question I ask is why? Isn't there enough from the last 25 years to fill the pages of YM?

I get the nostalgic appeal, my Dad would have killed for one when we were cruising our Kingfisher 20 and Albin Vega around the West coast of Scotland in the 70s/80s. A Contessa 32 was an aspirational boat at the time, and obviously they still have a strong following. They were near the top on my list too when it came to buying my own family cruiser almost 20 years ago. That was until I actually went to see one. My significant other looked at me as if I was mad, and vetoed it immediately.

We are a family of 5 and I must admit, I was somewhat disappointed by the concept when I saw it in the flesh. Nostalgia is a funny thing .... lusting after a Contessa 32 from the cockpit of an Albin Vega in the 80s is a completely different experience to viewing a decades old example in 2010, after having just chartered a nearly new Oceanis 393 a few weeks earlier. When it comes to getting your wallet out and taking the plunge, nostalgia becomes a very poor argument indeed. There was no way in this world I was going to persuade my family to spend 3 weeks cooped up on a Contessa, despite having enjoyed even smaller boats as a kid. I wasn't completely dissuaded though, but after looking at a few other boats I had lusted after from the confines of our Vega, my nostalgia bubble well and truly burst. I came to the conclusion that offerings from the 70s/80s simply don't cut it by modern standards, and most are floating sheds in need of major renovation, the few remaining good, serviceable ones are in use and not for sale.

... but back to the articles. The new version "as tested" was £580,000 :eek: - and I noticed there was no "Alternatives to consider" section ... not even YMs most die-hard old salt could manage the mental gymnastics and "man maths" required for that price tag to make sense. There is a customer for it somewhere, for whom money is no object, and nostalgia is the only reason they need I guess. I also noticed that despite waxing lyrically about its offshore credentials, the water capacity was quoted as 75l and fuel at 60l, these seem woefully inadequate for a serious offshore boat (at 5l per person per day you've got 5 days of water for a crew of 3 - with no reserve - and you ain't going to get very far in 5 days) - I guess cult boats get a free pass for fear of upsetting owners associations, so are never going to get a critical review from the mainstream press.

My conclusion after reading all 14 pages is that a Contessa 32 is actually a perfect man-cave on water, a floating potting shed for single blokes to retire to, so they can re-live their youth, escape the family, and have minor adventures re-living the '79 Fastnet in their heads. Maybe with the company of a like minded masochistic crew. Got to celebrate the diversity of the sailing community even if you don't "get it".
 
It's always been a dream boat for me, having started with my parents in the late 60's/early 70's with a Seamew 22 (doubt anyone will know those!) and then a Macwester 27 - a Contessa 32, like you, was always 'aspirational'. Parents eventually went for a Victoria 34 which my brother still sails.

Having got rid of a Greek share last year, we are now looking for a 32 ft (or so) something. Mrs PL has only been sailing for the last 15 years and when I showed her a YouTube video the Contessa 32, with no shower, open heads and all the other 'differences' from modern boats she was less than keen!

A shame as I still think it's the nicest looking boat out there, but with the amount of work to keep them going I'll just have to be satisfied by watching Refit and Sail on YouTube.
 
Is an AWB basically for boomers who can't quite bring themselves to buy a motorhome? ;)

Couldn't say, I'm Gen X with an AWB, a bit too young - I think Boomers generally yearn for a return to a simpler life. I do remember all the discussions my father had with his sailing friends - some of them were adamant that their wooden sailing boats were better than fiberglass for "real offshore sailing". They did all agree that Moody produced unseaworthy floating caravans, especially after the tragic death of Angus Primrose. I think it was just envy because one of their number had bought a brand new Moody - a 376 if I recall correctly - they described it at the time as "an ugly floating caravan" - looks pretty conservative by todays standards.
 
I suppose if you're proud of your Sierra on the drive and still wear kipper ties then pehaps a C32 is your dream, but the men in white coats must surely be along shortly.
Find it very odd, these people who want to remain in the stone age. If Fred and Barney had got a boat Wilma would have vetoed a C32!
 
It was certainly an aspirational boat when I had a Mystere 26 in the ‘70s but by the time I moved up to a Sadler 29 my mates were buying the Sadler 32 that was in most ways a ‘better’ boat than the Contessa, which slipped off my radar. I’m afraid that although I admire the nerve of anyone building a boat of quality and trying to sell it at that price, it seems to have become more of a rich man’s toy than a serious entry into the cruising market. Fine. I don’t begrudge the rich their toys, but I don’t feel any association with them.
 
Er it’s a boat. Thats the point. Not stuck in the dark ages at all and has its place in amongst a whole host of designs.
I chose to buy one on its looks and reputation and the price range. I’d prefer a good looking boat than a big lump of GRP sticking above the water.

Not sure why a magazine would give such a large section of thier magazine up other than thinking the readers would be interested. Personally I’ve a life and no interest in reading that much about a boat we all know about. Perhaps newer boats have less to write about.
We don’t all need showers and gin palaces. a Contessa is a solid boat to sail or take offshore and much cheaper. That’s the appeal. What’s not to like.

Steveeasy
 
For the majority of Sailors in the late 60's early 70's who were sailing 20 to 24 foot boats, those with Westerly Centaurs were a cut above. ALL 30 footers were aspirational, the 2 that spring to mind were the Contessa 32 and the Nic 32. We were more than happy with our HUGE Elizabethan 31 after years chartering 22 to 24 footers.

Being based in Moody's marina at Swanwick there were a few Moody Halbadier / Cavalier 36's and and the odd Carabineer at 44 foot?

How things change, a 40 footer is now a 'first boat'.
 
Another mention for George on Refit and Sail. I don't know why that channel isn't discussed on here more often, surely the most useful sailing channel there is. For the unaware George is a mobile boatbuilder/fixer who has developed a reputation of being the man to see if you want your C32 tarting up but can't afford Rogers.
His videos show pretty much every boat job you can think of being done to a professional standard. His latest series on refitting and racing his own boat has been highly entertaining.
 
Er it’s a boat. Thats the point. Not stuck in the dark ages at all and has its place in amongst a whole host of designs.
I chose to buy one on its looks and reputation and the price range. I’d prefer a good looking boat than a big lump of GRP sticking above the water.

Not sure why a magazine would give such a large section of thier magazine up other than thinking the readers would be interested. Personally I’ve a life and no interest in reading that much about a boat we all know about. Perhaps newer boats have less to write about.
We don’t all need showers and gin palaces. a Contessa is a solid boat to sail or take offshore and much cheaper. That’s the appeal. What’s not to like.

Steveeasy
I agree it does have the 'Row Away Factor' that many AWB's lack. I have never sailed one, I would like to, but whether I would buy one, small accommodation, low headroom and wet, is a different matter.

At sea in poor conditions with an AVS of circa 160 Deg I would choose wet over an AWB.
 
The OPs experience reminds me very much of mine with a Fisher. That was the aspirational boat for me - ideally the 37. No racer, but well respected, solid boats with an aesthetic which said serious boat not floating caravan. If I was ever going to buy a yacht that’s what it would be - and I said that for about 30 yrs until a few months into buying a yacht I realised on stepping onto my third fisher (a 37 no less) that they were almost all old, scruffy, even grotty and cramped with a smell of old damp boat. I’d been on spacious modern boats, designed around the practicalities of how modern leisure sailors actually use their boats rather than what the tell each other they do in yacht club bars.
 
I agree it does have the 'Row Away Factor' that many AWB's lack. I have never sailed one, I would like to, but whether I would buy one, small accommodation, low headroom and wet, is a different matter.

At sea in poor conditions with an AVS of circa 160 Deg I would choose wet over an AWB.
There you go. Not sure a boat exists that covers all the boxes. All boats offer different benifits and have compromises within each design.
A contessa will look after you well in a storm and do little to excite you in calm seas.
Steveeasy
 
Not sure why a magazine would give such a large section of thier magazine up other than thinking the readers would be interested.
I’m guessing the average reader is an ageing sailor who harks after the good old days when a Contessa was an aspirational boat. Does a typical AWB buyer read magazines?

a Contessa is a solid boat to sail or take offshore and much cheaper. That’s the appeal. What’s not to like.
Well I think the OP’s point about the price tag! If you were in the market for a new low 30ft’er, with £600K in your pocket there must be other boats in contention? That doesn’t mean an old one for less than 1/10th of that is a bad option, anything but, if it’s selling points outweigh its potential downsides for the particular buyer in question. I guess though that buyer needs to be aware that as people age the number who lust after such a craft probably fall and so must residual value.
 
I used to race them in my youth. Extremely wet boats.

I would never buy one. Very wet, tiny inside, cramped cockpit.

I think your initial observation about who might buy them now to be about right (but they do still get fleet racing in the Solent, which can be a big draw for some).
 
A Dragonfly 32 is cheaper, bigger inside, drier, twice as quick, easier to sail. Ok, not as good at being out in yhe Atlantic in 50kn. A damn sight better at making port before it hits of course. I and 99% of boat owners think Dragonflys are expensive. 580k is just stupid for a vintage design, however good they might be meant to be in bad weather. No boat is any better than it’s crew, in my experience. You could buy snd campaign a Cape 31 for a year or so if you want some racing thrills. And still have the boat. The next years running costs might be a shock though
 
In theory YM should have been given a Co32 because of how many happy words have been written about them over the years 😊

Other countries have their own classic benchmark/cult/retro/‘‘one day I’ll open one’’designs too.
And one or two of them are striking boats to look at and to sail too apparently.

All good for keeping the sport alive and old boats sailing and generating churn.

In model boat world people are literally printing boats and custom or replacement parts with 3d printers.

One day I can see us hitting P and printing any boat design you want. Then melting it into a recycling reservoir and print something else for a while.
Well, not quite, but ….?🤔
 
If a member of the boomer cohort has the cash for a new Contessa 32, I doubt very much they are in a man and his shed league. Their sheds are probably 4 x bay oak beam garages with attached workshop and assorted top of the range cars.

People of means have always bought expensive vintage as a way of differentiating themselves from those who buy expensive, modern tat.

Of course, tired old boats, that sell for a song, will always be bought with or without eyes open.
 
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