coveman
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I am considering using Trilux on my outboard motor as an antifoul after priming , but I do not want something that erodes easily and makes a mess when transporting the engine. Any other users out there ? Does it dry hard?
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dankilb
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Yup! Won’t rub off in normal handling.
Whether it’ll make much difference to fouling in that application is another question.
Tranona
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It will probably work if the outboard is semi permanently left in the water for example in a well. It is commonly used on saildrives and outdrives. not brilliant as an antifoul but better than nothing. The Hempel eqyivalent is usually cheaper and just as effective. Use the dedicated primer and spray application. however if the leg is not left submerged then don't bother.
Neeves
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We use it on the prop; sail drive and boot top = if you rub it - it comes off. I think if you intend using it on an O/B and the location you wish to protect you also use to carry it - expect to have hands the colour of the Trilux. But its not as bad as an ablative. If you 'transport' the O/B -this suggest you keep it at home - why do you want to AF it?
Jonathan
Jonathan
Pete7
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Used it in the passed, but pretty ineffective in Portsmouth harbour, particularly near the surface. How about a small builders bag instead. Its going to be an awful mess in a couple of years, but the outboard will be fine.
Pete
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Neeves
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Probably using it in sea water
Very droll
If it is actually being used - it will not foul
.If its being left on the transom, then lift it out of the water (as Tranoma suggests or implies) - I think all O/Bs have this facility
If it is left in a well and the well can be closed - drop in a spoon full of American bleach - that's how boat bags work, or not.
Jonathan
Elessar
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It useless as an anti foul.
Better to scrub the outboard clean when you have to leave it in the water.
If you must antifoul, velox is the least bad / borderline quite good for the anti fouls you can use on stern gear.
LONG_KEELER
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I wonder if you sprayed a dozen coats of PlastiKote on the leg and prop . Then applied normal antifoul. You only need it about half way up.
coveman
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Yes, the reason for wanting to anti foul it is that it will be kept in the well of my boat with the leg submerged and the well is not really accessible enough to use a bag or something similar. Unfortunately the design means the engine cannot be tilted out of the water. I was hoping to then leave it in situ for the summer season. In the past I have taken it out each time and stored it in the cabin - something I was hoping to avoid now, and hopefully reduce the stress on my back!
I'm now questioning this as from the replies it sounds as though it does not work too well?
I'm now questioning this as from the replies it sounds as though it does not work too well?
Dipper
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It works OK on my saildrive and propeller but my boat is in Portland Harbour which doesn't suffer as much from fouling as other places.
coveman
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Mine is in Weymouth council marina now - used to be in Portland Harbour!
Skylark
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I wouldn't be put off. It's often a good idea to read the makers instructors before applying it.
I use Trilux 33 on my plastic bowthruster, my aluminium saildrive leg and my prop. The bowthruster and leg are undercoated with Primocon and I have minimal fouling at the end of a season. I use Hammerite special metals primer on my 3-blade, folding prop. The anitfoul on top of the primer is nothing more than a token effort. The best way to keep a prop clean is to use it. Hammerite primer really adheres well and my primary reason for using this, subjectively, is to reduce exposed surface area and hence minimise the loss of the nose nut anode.
Elessar
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Try velox then. Can be hard to get hold of but worth the effort. Can be used on the prop too. It’s a leap better than Trilux, however it is applied…….
Neeves
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It depends how large an area you want to cover but Velox is not cheap, Trilux is cheap but less effective. Another option, especially as Velox is difficult to access, is Prop Speed. But as with Velox you need to follow the instructions meticulously. Prop Spreed, or Prop One are not cheap either but you will see them on the running gear on MoBos. There is a theme here - money offers the best AF . Prop Speed or Prop One are silicone coatings.
As Skylark mentions - the best way to keep the O/B clean is to use it. The constant flow of water will keep the fouling at bay, whether its shell or vegetation. But leave your O/B idle for a month or so and something will adhere and need effort to get it off (whatever you use as an AF). As soon as you need to scrape you will damage the AF and the damaged area will be where the fouling starts - and more quickly as the AF is damaged or removed completely.
I cannot agree that Trilux is useless - its does have a positive effect - but not enough as most people don't, or cannot, use their boats with sufficient frequency. They then blame the AF forgetting they did not use their boat (or did not follow the application instructions).
You may find you can make a bag with a big hoop as the opening. You might be able to manouver the bag in your restricted well using a couple of poles and encase the O/B in the bag. Add a spoon full of American Bleach inside the bag each time you leave the boat.
There is no perfect answer.
If you have the space - maybe a beam across the well and a block and tackle would allow you to lift the OB enough to remove it from the water, leaving it suspended - and allow you to support your back. A decent chain will allow you to secure it from prying fingers. You don't mention the boat nor offer pictures so difficult to offer any other ideas.
Jonathan
. Prop Speed or Prop One are silicone coatings.As Skylark mentions - the best way to keep the O/B clean is to use it. The constant flow of water will keep the fouling at bay, whether its shell or vegetation. But leave your O/B idle for a month or so and something will adhere and need effort to get it off (whatever you use as an AF). As soon as you need to scrape you will damage the AF and the damaged area will be where the fouling starts - and more quickly as the AF is damaged or removed completely.
I cannot agree that Trilux is useless - its does have a positive effect - but not enough as most people don't, or cannot, use their boats with sufficient frequency. They then blame the AF forgetting they did not use their boat (or did not follow the application instructions).
You may find you can make a bag with a big hoop as the opening. You might be able to manouver the bag in your restricted well using a couple of poles and encase the O/B in the bag. Add a spoon full of American Bleach inside the bag each time you leave the boat.
There is no perfect answer.
If you have the space - maybe a beam across the well and a block and tackle would allow you to lift the OB enough to remove it from the water, leaving it suspended - and allow you to support your back. A decent chain will allow you to secure it from prying fingers. You don't mention the boat nor offer pictures so difficult to offer any other ideas.
Jonathan
Elessar
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I use my boat loads and as we have said before they may be differences in oz/Uk formulations.It depends how large an area you want to cover but Velox is not cheap, Trilux is cheap but less effective. Another option, especially as Velox is difficult to access, is Prop Speed. But as with Velox you need to follow the instructions meticulously. Prop Spreed, or Prop One are not cheap either but you will see them on the running gear on MoBos. There is a theme here - money offers the best AF
As Skylark mentions - the best way to keep the O/B clean is to use it. The constant flow of water will keep the fouling at bay, whether its shell or vegetation. But leave your O/B idle for a month or so and something will adhere and need effort to get it off (whatever you use as an AF). As soon as you need to scrape you will damage the AF and the damaged area will be where the fouling starts - and more quickly as the AF is damaged or removed completely.
I cannot agree that Trilux is useless - its does have a positive effect - but not enough as most people don't, or cannot, use their boats with sufficient frequency. They then blame the AF forgetting they did not use their boat (or did not follow the application instructions).
You may find you can make a bag with a big hoop as the opening. You might be able to manouver the bag in your restricted well using a couple of poles and encase the O/B in the bag. Add a spoon full of American Bleach inside the bag each time you leave the boat.
There is no perfect answer.
If you have the space - maybe a beam across the well and a block and tackle would allow you to lift the OB enough to remove it from the water, leaving it suspended - and allow you to support your back. A decent chain will allow you to secure it from prying fingers. You don't mention the boat nor offer pictures so difficult to offer any other ideas.
Jonathan
Velox is not very expensive here - £46.95 and now in stock in Force 4 one of our big chandlers - and it the choice of many stinkies including me.
Propspeed by comparison is £200. Now that IS expensive.
And Trilux is useless Maybe yours is better.
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Neeves
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Read Post 11 and 13 - I suspect they have the same formulation as you and they seem to find it OK - not brilliant but OK. It is not a patch on a copper based AF and would not be sold if it was useless - as the market place votes with its feet (or wallet).
Sorry but stg47 for a little tin of Velox is expensive + the cost of the primer and is more expensive that Trilux (not forgetting that Prop Speed comes as a complete kit). Prop Speed is extortionate (I never suggested it was cheap) - its an option and the OP was looking for advice. Totally irrelevant but Prop Speed costs in Oz about 50% of the cost being quoted for the UK - someone is making a lot of money PropSpeed Small Kit (200ml) and I still think it expensive. I allow the OP to decide what he wants and don't edit my replies to suit anyone's wallet as I don't judge people's wealth. Prop Speed has gained international acceptance despite its high price, primarily on MoBos. I have no idea what the OP owns, nor the size of his O/B not how big his wallet might be - I simply offer options.
Jonathan
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Daydream believer
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I am quite pleased with Trilux on my saildrive. But I have coppercoat on the hull so the boat has to be lifted every 12 /14 weeks for jet washing anyway. But the trilux performs better than the coppercoat
Pete7
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Given that the outboard is below the hull rather than on the transom, Trilux might be enough depending on were the boat is to be moored. A mid and end of season lift of the engine a a scrub might be needed, but shouldn't be too much work.
Scubadoo
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Have a look at Seajet 034. I used to use trilux for a few years and found it to be completely useless in my experience.