International Trilux

[Neeves]

Have a look at Seajet 034. I used to use trilux for a few years and found it to be completely useless in my experience.

Given that Trilux is, according to some - useless - but better than Coppercoat........

I have made an attempt at following your advice and have an enquiry for a distributor in Sydney. There is an importer but based in Brisbane. Despite the name, Seajet, it appears the manufacturer is a subsidiary of a Japanese surface coatings supplier. Interestingly it has the same active ingredient as Trilux, but I could not define a comparison of solids content. Additionally the resin chemistry is of critical importance - and I'm then well out of my depth

But its a hard AF, zinc pyrithrione based and suitable for application to aluminium.

If I get anywhere I'll report back - as prop cleanliness is one of those repetitive threads.

Jonathan

 

[Elessar]

I am quite pleased with Trilux on my saildrive. But I have coppercoat on the hull so the boat has to be lifted every 12 /14 weeks for jet washing anyway. But the trilux performs better than the coppercoat

Seriously? You live in a parallel universe to me.

Coppercoat on the hull. Trilux on the trim tab.



Picture as lifted before jet washing.

 

[Elessar]

Given that Trilux is, according to some - useless - but better than Coppercoat........

Jonathan

You can say “according to some” about any quote you like on the internet. Forget anecdotes and look at my picture just posted above.

As for the Velox price, yes it is a small tin for just under £50 but it goes on thin so it’s not bad £/metre square. Don’t have the data sheets to hand to quantify but a small tin would last about 4 years I reckon doing a sail drive. Maybe more. Worth every penny for me as it works and therefore saves fuel.

 

[Tranona]

Not my experience at all, on a saildrive, Coppercoat on hull, Trilux on saildrive housing and prop hub, Velox on blades after a year in the water

Why did you use Trilux there? Is it because the tabs are aluminium?

OP is considering using it on a submerged outboatd leg and that should be fine, and really the only easy alternative to nothing. Should keep it clear for a season, but probably not all year round.

 

[Elessar]

Not my experience at all, on a saildrive, View attachment 131608 Coppercoat on hull, Trilux on saildrive housing and prop hub, Velox on blades after a year in the water

Why did you use Trilux there? Is it because the tabs are aluminium?

OP is considering using it on a submerged outboatd leg and that should be fine, and really the only easy alternative to nothing. Should keep it clear for a season, but probably not all year round.

Yes. Metal tabs. I now use velox on all the metalwork, p brackets, rudders, props, tabs and prop shafts. First year I’ve done it all and will post the outcome when I lift.

Hard to see but your props look better than your saildrive? Why did you mix and match velox and trilux?

Clearly you didn’t Coppercoat the bottom of your keel. The keel itself looks slimy/weedy but not badly so? Hard to tell I’m looking on a phone.

 

[Neeves]

Seriously? You live in a parallel universe to me.

Coppercoat on the hull. Trilux on the trim tab.

You can say “according to some” about any quote you like on the internet. Forget anecdotes and look at my picture just posted above.

As for the Velox price, yes it is a small tin for just under £50 but it goes on thin so it’s not bad £/metre square. Don’t have the data sheets to hand to quantify but a small tin would last about 4 years I reckon doing a sail drive. Maybe more. Worth every penny for me as it works and therefore saves fuel.

From memory Velox needs 2 coats and I can assure you a 'small tin' does 2 sail drives and 2 props - and fouls. But then maybe I too live in an alternative universe. But Trilux also fouls - but it is less painful.

I'll am not taking 'any' quote on the internet .... I'll reference two specific posts, Number 24 and Number 18. Quote number 18 is the worry - he slips his yacht surprisingly frequently - at some cost I would think. I prefer the philosophy that if there is nothing good to be said about a product - don't knock the competition - if you have a fiduciary interest.

Jonathan

 

[Elessar]

From memory Velox needs 2 coats and I can assure you a 'small tin' does 2 sail drives and 2 props - and fouls. But then maybe I too live in an alternative universe. But Trilux also fouls - but it is less painful.

I'll am not taking 'any' quote on the internet .... I'll reference two specific posts, Number 24 and Number 18. Quote number 18 is the worry - he slips his yacht surprisingly frequently - at some cost I would think. I prefer the philosophy that if there is nothing good to be said about a product - don't knock the competition - if you have a fiduciary interest.

Jonathan

For the avoidance of doubt I have no financial interest in any boating business. I did in the past but that was over 8 years ago.

So I am not knocking completion. I’m sharing my experience of trilux. And posted photographs of its clear lack of effectiveness to try and stop fellow boat owners wasting their money on it.

And my point is directly responding to the OP.

 

[Tranona]

Yes. Metal tabs. I now use velox on all the metalwork, p brackets, rudders, props, tabs and prop shafts. First year I’ve done it all and will post the outcome when I lift.

Hard to see but your props look better than your saildrive? Why did you mix and match velox and trilux?

Clearly you didn’t Coppercoat the bottom of your keel. The keel itself looks slimy/weedy but not badly so? Hard to tell I’m looking on a phone.

Yes, the Trilux is clearly not as good as the Velox, but the odd barnacle on the housing and the hub has no real effect on performance. They were already done with Trilux from new and did not think it worth stripping them back. Blades were easy to prepare for Velox and no big deal to rub the housing back and spray on extra coats once a year. Yes was not able to get the areas under the blocks blasted and Coppercoated when I redid the keel. something I (or rather the new owner) will have to live with.

 

[Tranona]

And my point is directly responding to the OP

Except that your example is not an outboard leg like the OPs which will be submerged under the hull in a well which is much more like a saildrive and as you can see from my photo and the experience of others it works tolerably well in that sort of situation. Certainly worth trying.

 

[Daydream believer]

. Quote number 18 is the worry - he slips his yacht surprisingly frequently - at some cost I would think. I prefer the philosophy that if there is nothing good to be said about a product - don't knock the competition - if you have a fiduciary interest.

I launch my boat just after easter. I have to do little work to the hull although this year I have given up on the keel & reverted to antifoul painting due to rust. The keel has had 4 applications of coppercoat over the years. I will have the boat totally re coppercoated either in 2023 or 2024. This will be the third application since circa 2006 ( from memory)
With copper coat I do not pay for antifoul paint, Do little work Need no tools, Do not get migraine attacks due to working under the boat ( The main reason for coppercoat)
Taking all that in to account the cost of slipping mid season & having a beautifully clean hull is a better deal & hardly any more expensive than 2 coats of expensive antifoul paint once one has bitten the application cost..Paint will still mean a slow boat 3/4 of the way through the season anyway.
Once the boat starts to go slow at the end of the season ( varies annually & if I go into fresh water or not) I have it out for the winter.

 

[Elessar]

Except that your example is not an outboard leg like the OPs which will be submerged under the hull in a well which is much more like a saildrive and as you can see from my photo and the experience of others it works tolerably well in that sort of situation. Certainly worth trying.

Fair. And I see why you’ve made your choice.
But the OP has no tri;ux to remove. He can choose velox or trilux (or anything else)
And you say that velox is “clearly better” than trilux, even if trilux isn’t as useless in your application as it is for me.
That does go back to his original question,

 

[coveman]

Thanks for the replies and comments - helpful in deciding what is best to do.