Alicatt
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Just had my first Pfizer shot today at 13:00 can't access my records as I don't have a pass/ID card yet
Well you have needed a yellow fever certificate for many years in order to enter a lot of countries so don't see the difference. And if it is a an app then it will be a lot more fraud-proof. You can buy fake yellow fever certificates easily in countries like Nigeria and Pakistan, so you can be sure they will be selling fake covid certificates soon if it is just a piece of paper.The only valid passport for travel is the regular one.
You do not need any other passport/certificate to travel today, You will need a negative Covid test done in 15 min at (I belive) any airport. Cost: free in France, €30 in Italy, €65 in Sweden, so somebody is starting to see the potensial to earn a lot of €#$ on this mess.
Well you have needed a yellow fever certificate for many years in order to enter a lot of countries so don't see the difference. And if it is a an app then it will be a lot more fraud-proof. You can buy fake yellow fever certificates easily in countries like Nigeria and Pakistan, so you can be sure they will be selling fake covid certificates soon if it is just a piece of paper.
For what it is worth,Just had my first Pfizer shot today at 13:00 can't access my records as I don't have a pass/ID card yet
Yeah I have a card delineating some of those details with also the next appointment for my second jab, just my name, batch number, time and date, no other details.For what it is worth,
When we get our first jab, we are given a card, identifying the vaccine used.
On the back of the card, there are our our personal details, batch number of jab given and appointment date for second jab.
Some advice is saying that this will be sufficient to confirm you are vaccinated - I am a bit sceptical. We also have an health service app, which it is understood will provide you with a e-Covid Passport.
The single shot Johnson jab has just been introduced into the problem so hopefully, it will all become clearer in the near future.
What NHS App is this? I have tried the NHS app and it says that as I am Scottish it will not work, I am still currently registered with a doctor in Scotland.The NHS app ( as well as on a PC) will show all the vaxccines you have had. Shows both of mine AZ ones from June and July last year.
yeah does not work for Scots people
I was primarily thinking of Europe in my post, and even here they have big difficulties in finding a format they can agree on, let alone the world! And now there is a question about people that have taken vaccines not approved in the EU, are they to be “approved“ in the app?
I haven never showed any vaccine certification anywhere I have been, but I have not been everywhere unfortunately.
As a traveler it has been up to me to have the recommended vaccinations for the country I have traveled to.
Do you mean that people without a smartphone can’t travel?
For what it is worth,
When we get our first jab, we are given a card, identifying the vaccine used.
On the back of the card, there are our our personal details, batch number of jab given and appointment date for second jab.
Some advice is saying that this will be sufficient to confirm you are vaccinated - I am a bit sceptical. We also have an health service app, which it is understood will provide you with a e-Covid Passport.
The single shot Johnson jab has just been introduced into the problem so hopefully, it will all become clearer in the near future.
No, you will be able to get a printed copy later in the month by ringing a number, possibly 119 off the top of my head, you will have to check that.Do you mean that people without a smartphone can’t travel?
The EU have agreed a format and have agreed to interface with the IATA system, it will be up to areas/countries as to what is acceptable initially until the WHO issue a list - same as every other jab.
It will be up to the destination as to what's acceptable - the IATA travel pass which airlines are banking on seems to require a smartphone with digital certificate listing the jabs/tests issued by the country of origin.
As for the yellow fever WHO does not regard United Republic of Tanzania or Malawi as a risk area and do not recommend vaccines if you have not been in a country on the risk list in the link above. But of course the rules can change fast, and some even makes their own rules at discretion. I remember traveling by car to Russia some years ago, a five dollar bill in the passport would get you in the fast lane
yeah does not work for Scots people
When you've left Malawi, can't enter Tanzania and are stuck between the border posts, the WHO don't really help.
Not in Scotland - We are doomed................!People who have had both jabs will be able to use the NHS app as a vaccine passport for overseas travel from Monday. Those who do not use smartphones can phone 119 for a paper letter confirming their vaccine status but have been urged not to ask their GP. The government hopes the app will be able to show vaccination status in time for people to be able to use it when the ban on foreign travel is lifted on May 17. The app will not show Covid test results but it is hoped that they will be incorporated by the time domestic Covid status certification is due to be introduced for mass events on June 21. The NHS app was set up to allow people to book appointments and repeat prescriptions online and allows people to see their full medical records. NHS Digital, the health service’s technology unit, has been working on tweaking the app so that vaccine data is pulled out of medical records and shown on a separate screen that can be presented to officials, The Times reported. People must register to use the app and the government is advising people to do so at least two weeks before they travel abroad. As an alternative they can apply for a paper letter but this is available only five days after the second dose and will take a further five days to arrive. The government website says: “From May 17, you may be able to show your Covid-19 vaccination status as proof of your status when travelling abroad to some countries or territories. “You can access your Covid-19 vaccination status through the free NHS App from May 17. You can access the app through mobile devices such as a smartphone or by tablet. Proof of your Covid-19 vaccination status will be shown within the NHS App. We recommend you register with the app before booking international travel.” It adds: “Demonstrating your Covid-19 vaccination status allows you to show others that you’ve had a full course of the Covid-19 vaccine when travelling abroad to some countries or territories. A full course is currently two doses of any approved vaccine.” However, it says: “There are not many countries that currently accept proof of vaccination. So for the time being most people will still need to follow other rules when travelling abroad – like getting a negative pre-departure test.” The advice adds: “If you do not have access to a smartphone and know that the country you are travelling to requires Covid-19 vaccination status, you can call the NHS helpline on 119 from 17 May and ask for a letter to be posted to you. This must be at least 5 days after you’ve completed your course of the vaccine. We expect the letter to take up to 5 days to reach you. “Do not contact your GP surgery about your Covid-19 vaccination status. GPs cannot provide letters showing your Covid-19 vaccination status.” Source -travelweekly.co.uk
Like it or not, it is becoming increasingly apparent that we may have to have Covid Passport if we wish to travel between countries.
My thoughts are about those of us who are getting jabbed in countries other than our ‘home’ country (the country that issued our passport).
We are in this position as British Passport holders, who are getting the AstraZeneca (AZ) jabs in Portugal.
I understand that following the second jab we will be able to get an e-Covid Passport that we can download and print off. Alternatively, if we apply to the local health centre, they will provide a hardcopy passport.
Because there are 12 weeks between jabs and it is anticipated that international travel will soon resume, some are thinking of getting their first jab abroad but then flying back to the UK for their second and possibly third booster jab in the autumn. Question, how will they get a Covid Passport for future travel
To get around this, we intend to remain in Portugal and travel on a Portuguese Covid Passport.
Looking to the longer term, I understand one idea in the UK is for details of jabs to be incorporated into the NHS app and added as biometric details to or e-passports. Wonder how we will get our ‘foreign’ Covid Passport details added to our UK passports.
I suppose one solution would be to have a second course of jabs in the U.K. but this would seem a bit drastic and would it be safe
My final thought is that given a couple of years, as a better and ‘better handle’ on Covid, is gained the medical passport issue may just fade away. We don’t get passport to prove that we are up to date with flu jabs etc.
Any/all thoughts appreciated.?
The only valid passport for travel is the regular one.
You do not need any other passport/certificate to travel today, You will need a negative Covid test done in 15 min at (I belive) any airport. Cost: free in France, €30 in Italy, €65 in Sweden, so somebody is starting to see the potensial to earn a lot of €#$ on this mess.