LONG_KEELER
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Can you get away with the engine as it is ?
Would be a bummer if you have to miss out a chunk of sailing this season.
It would then make a great winter project with perhaps some help along the way.
If you wanted an Yanmar 1GM10 rebuilt who would you want to do it?
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Would be a bummer if you have to miss out a chunk of sailing this season.
It would then make a great winter project with perhaps some help along the way.
john_morris_uk
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I'm, slightly bemused by the prices being quoted for a new engine. I've just taken delivery of a new Beta 38 with upgraded alternator etc etc and it was in the £6k region which is what people are suggesting for a Beta 10...?. I am assuming that the smaller engines come with a smaller price tag?
(The last time I bought a brand new 1GM10 it was just over £2k delivered... so maybe I'm out of date with Yammer prices...)
(The last time I bought a brand new 1GM10 it was just over £2k delivered... so maybe I'm out of date with Yammer prices...)
Tranona
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Yes way out of date. don't know how you got your Beta 38 at that price (including VAT?) as I have just ordered a 30 with high rise exhaust and with delivery is £6700. Got quotes for Yanmar, Volvo, Nanni, Vetus, Sole and all +/- £6500. A 1GM is close to £4k.
john_morris_uk
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It was between £6 and £7k and I ordered it at the boat show last year. High rise exhaust and 120A alternator as extras etc
A Yammer 1GM10 at £4k seems a bargain compared to some of the prices being bandied about for the rebuild parts...
jwfrary
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The 1 gms also only 8 odd horse power.... So 10 is an upgrade!
The smaller engines are a bit cheaper but not massively so.
The smaller engines are a bit cheaper but not massively so.
paddywackcocker
Member
personal I’d go for home rebuild, a lovely easy engine to do.
full rebuild kit (eBay, 234359437231) Including complete piston, valves, seals and gaskets.
probably only need bore honed (cheap tool, or glaze buster).
the company will supply over size piston if rebore needed. Rebore should be about £80-£120 local engineering firm.
Crank unless showing marks and measures with tolerance just bearings (included in kit).
with engine on bench 8 hours, stripped, cleaned, prepped, rebuilt and painted. Even if crank needed grinding/polishing and valve seats cutting, excluding your labour the hole thing under 1k
Very satisfying
full rebuild kit (eBay, 234359437231) Including complete piston, valves, seals and gaskets.
probably only need bore honed (cheap tool, or glaze buster).
the company will supply over size piston if rebore needed. Rebore should be about £80-£120 local engineering firm.
Crank unless showing marks and measures with tolerance just bearings (included in kit).
with engine on bench 8 hours, stripped, cleaned, prepped, rebuilt and painted. Even if crank needed grinding/polishing and valve seats cutting, excluding your labour the hole thing under 1k
Very satisfying
Gixer
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I‘ve been though this myself with my little 1GM10. When I bought my boat the engine way very sick, and I considered replacing it. A new 1GM10 is very expensive as is changing to another engine so I opted to have it rebuilt. It cost me around £1000 in parts and a weekend of fiddling with a friend to rebuilt it while still in the boat. I was amazed how simple the engine was, there’s really nothing to it. This was 10 years ago and it still starts on the button.
Every few years I consider buying a Beta 14hp but after totting up the price for the ancillaries and new propeller I always bottle it.
I do like my simple, lightweight 1GM10 and when it dies will replace with a refurbished one.
Every few years I consider buying a Beta 14hp but after totting up the price for the ancillaries and new propeller I always bottle it.
I do like my simple, lightweight 1GM10 and when it dies will replace with a refurbished one.
Firefly211
Member
Hi Gixer, did you do anything to gearbox at the same time?
Jim@sea
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In Manchester a few years ago there was a business which advertised that they would recondition engines. Apparently they would buy engines from scrap yards where write-offs would end up, then use perfectly good (but second hand) pistons, oil pimps , cylinder heads etc, quick paint of light blue and fit the engine.
I nearly bought a Achilles 24 which had a 10 hp engine and I checked up on getting parts and a piston was unavailable.
I also had a boat with a 50 hp Thornycroft (BMC Diesel) and even though it was 45 years since I worked on BMC Diesels I thought that I could get parts, virtually impossible.
Personally I would rather buy a Chinese copy of the Kubota engine.
I nearly bought a Achilles 24 which had a 10 hp engine and I checked up on getting parts and a piston was unavailable.
I also had a boat with a 50 hp Thornycroft (BMC Diesel) and even though it was 45 years since I worked on BMC Diesels I thought that I could get parts, virtually impossible.
Personally I would rather buy a Chinese copy of the Kubota engine.
Gixer
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Hey, no I didn’t. Being totally honest I‘ve only replaced the gearbox oil a few times….
DoubleEnder
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Thread revival.
I know it would be a faff but what about buying a new one in the USA New Yanmar 1GM10 9HP Inboard Diesel Engine - Sale !!
Ship it to uk and pay the VAT?
seems like an insane price difference
I know it would be a faff but what about buying a new one in the USA New Yanmar 1GM10 9HP Inboard Diesel Engine - Sale !!
Ship it to uk and pay the VAT?
seems like an insane price difference
rotrax
Well-known member
Me. But I dont do repairs any more.
westernman
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Should be possible.
It even meets RCD II emissions requirements, so should be no issue to import.
dunedin
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It seems to be in Indonesia if you believe the Web site
OUTBOARD GLOBAL STORE
Jln. Mangga Dua No.19F
Jakarta 14420
INDONESIA
Do you feel lucky?
garymalmgren
Active member
RE'
OUTBOARD GLOBAL STORE
Jln. Mangga Dua No.19F
Jakarta 14420
INDONESIA
Ahh. The same place that advertised phantom Tohatsu 9.9hp outboards
FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD. WOW!
Buyers losing thousands to discount outboard engine sales scams
OUTBOARD GLOBAL STORE
Jln. Mangga Dua No.19F
Jakarta 14420
INDONESIA
Ahh. The same place that advertised phantom Tohatsu 9.9hp outboards
FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD. WOW!
Buyers losing thousands to discount outboard engine sales scams
Beneteau381
Well-known member
Or me but I’m the same!
DoubleEnder
Well-known member
Ah yes I see. Good spot
Jonny A
Active member
If anyone's brave enough to try it, please let us know how you get on.
