I may lose my boat and my house

SaltIre said:
Hire a Chinook when lockdown is fully lifted - pardon the pun...
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i know one of the three guys that were stood under that Sea King when the rotors hit the rock. osrry for OT. for the OP - barge crane?
 
A certain Larry Greeman taught me to sail at sea from that beach. Heavy naval whaler in F6 but stillish water. Great fun but terrified my ex.

However very shallow and used to paddle there with kids when Weymouth side as opposed to Portland. Floating barge not so useful if you cant get close in.

I agree with Dom, consider getting boats in water as soon as pos and move if need be if you think situation might be wrse next spring.
 
KREW2 said:
Lifting boats comes very close to being a contact sport, as is working on our moorings boat. I can't see much chance of getting teams to be able to work together in the next few weeks. Tides are an issue, no 2.3/2.4 tides in June or July, but we could do it over 3 days with careful planning. if it is going to be August it is hardly worth it. Most of us are now resigned to staying ashore. Maybe for ever?
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In the 1970’s Billy Partington at Pwllheli used to launch all the boats in his yard single handed. He used a tractor, a sort of flat truck with uprights the fin keepers could rest against, lots of hydraulic jacks to lift the boat as the truck went under and then he trundled it to his slip. Only then did he have a helper as to the boat was moored .on the “trots”. Don’t despair. Where there is a will, there is usually a way!
 
dom said:
Sounds like terrible news on both fronts and one can but only feel for you. Subject to the impending survey, those second row back houses may turn out to be decades, or even centuries away from risk. Hopefully that's the case in which case it's such a beautiful spot.

In terms of the boats, I'd be inclined to just get them in at the first available opportunity and then consider relocating after that. Or at least develop a contingency launch plan. All subject to professional advice of course.
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Indeed a beautiful spot, aerial photo of the house makes it look a bit more precarious for us than it actually is, I just snuck that bit in to give the thread title a bit more drama.
There is definitely a case for getting the boats in asap, whether the club can continue to do winter keelboat storage is now in doubt.
This will be a shame as it nets the club about 16/17k in revenue.
As you can see a barge crane would not have the reach, so it's gonna have to be a Chinook.
 
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If the club are seriously thinking about boat lifting options going forwards, let me know as solving this exact problem is precisely what I do. Happy to just advise or more if desired.
 
This video is of a friend hallout in Richards Bay

You can see how the boat is lifted and moved.


I have used the ame lift for a 24 ton Ferro boat but I use the clubs cradle on my steel boat as I only need a short lift out time.

14.00 min in will see the hallout in Richards Bay.



You can see the travel lift at 1.28 min into the video.

 
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Just out of interest, where exactly is that?

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KREW2 said:
My house is in an elevated position, and there area lot of pipelines, a railway walk and other infra structure between me and the shore. By the time it gets to me I will be long gone.
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Took one small storm to destroy the railway line at Dawlish.
 
Norman_E said:
It looks to me as if that old railway line will become the road in a few years time.
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Old Castle road doesn't really lead anywhere. Accept for house access our club, and the small beach. There are already possible alternative routes, but they will need to be built, and would involve crossing over the railway walk.
As for the railway walk, it is quite elevated at the point pictured.
The road will have to go first, then the next row of houses, then the railway walk. another 15 meters and I will have direct access from my garden to the beach.
 
It will depend if Highways think it can be stabilised. One of their first options may be to put a weight limit on the road, if your crane operators are prepared to get down there and do a lift i would, then by the time you are looking to come ashore the club may have a better idea of what is going to happen longterm , which could mean your own lifting gear on site or winter storage elsewhere.

Just out of interest what is the underlying ground conditions ?
 
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Just out of interest what is the underlying ground conditions ?
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It's all clay.
Apparently the slips are caused by surface water running down, and not erosion from the sea, although I'm sure it must play a small part.
The clay prevents the surface water from being able to drain away, so the clay moves and the ground becomes unstable. This is evident on the railway walk, where areas of tarmac sometimes erupt, as they often do in our club top car park.

A couple of years ago we had to renew about 80 meters of club perimeter fence in our top car park (not on the sea side). It was at the base of a 20ft bank below the railway walk. The bank itself did not collapse, but the clay rose up and forced the support posts, along with their concrete footings out of the ground, bringing the whole fence with it. The council planted lots of plants in the bank to draw the water, and land drains were dug. So far so good.
The bottom boat park, where the boats are stored is reclaimed land, so It drains quite well.
 
Clay? KREW2: Please, please, please don't forget to film the arrival of your 150 ton crane.

AFAIK we've never had an in-forum crane collapse and a 150 tonner tumbling down a hill. Well Jack and Jill eat your heart out, this would make you an overnight YouTube star.

Then you could buy the most expensivest pad in Sandbanks, go on "Celebrity Get me Out of Here" and live happily ever after
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Don't know about 2nd hand ones. The yard where I'm based bought one about 8 or 10 years ago so they've been around a while. The yard scrapped all their old tractors and tailors and now do everything with the sublift, but I believe the price was well in to 6 figures.
 
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