I hope this doesn't belong to anyone on here

[prof pat pending]

I didn't dwell on anything, nor gained any pleasure from hearing about any boat being harmed. This is a forum in which people discuss the matters in hand.

It's not my fault people are touchy about the whole terrible situation, but accusations like this aren't really fair are they!?

Oh really...I seem to recall that you're really clever and everyone else are idiots
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?386602-Seriously!

 

[No Regrets]

Was that incorrect then?

 

[Chris_d]

Was that incorrect then?

You clearly see the world differently to others, so I will leave it there:nonchalance:

 

[prof pat pending]

Was that incorrect then?

Errrrr.....anchor ring any bells?

 

[funinthesun]

I didn't dwell on anything, nor gained any pleasure from hearing about any boat being harmed. This is a forum in which people discuss the matters in hand.

It's not my fault people are touchy about the whole terrible situation, but accusations like this aren't really fair are they!?

Life's not not fair mon ami

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

With the greatest of respect (that means I can now slate you!) you have obviously not visited the area. There is absolutely no reason to move the boat from its secure mooring on the Thames, clearly something catastrophic has happened here for it to sink link that (perhaps the outdrive went? or hit by something) to say he should not have left it out suggests that each and every boat on the Thames needs to come out!

In the early 70's I had a Seamaster moored at Shiplake all through the winter.

Probably a common problem is that when the water rises beyond the bank, the fenders pop out and the boat can ride up the bank and eventually there is a possibility that a hole is punctured through beneath the waterline.

I drove a length of scaffold pole deep into the bank, attaching another lighter scaffold pole to the original via a car type towing ball and hitch, then out to the boat where the pole was attached to the deck via another ball and hitch.

Then..... bow and stern lines with springs kept her safe in a fixed position from the shore even if the water rose.

It is a very sad sight to see the craft in the photos, but it strikes me that anyone who doesn't take exceptional care over their moorings, when leaving a boat in a swollen river, is negligent and should not expect their insurance to cover a claim.

S.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

I think this is perhaps a little different to that of previous years ... And as for dropping the anchor ? Was that serious ?

Probably only if you have a very generously sized modern generation anchor on a decent length rode, that will instantly reset if it breaks loose.

I've slept on my Rocna with a very large spring tide rushing by that saw a F6-7 blowing us sideways in the western isles.

Probably safer than being in the Thames I know especially in a crisp packet like a mobo, but don't underestimate a top quality anchor.

S.

 

[prof pat pending]

It's not really the anchor thats the issue, the river bed is not always easy to get a firm hold of

 

[ganter]

Oh dear.........

I doubt there are many of these in the non tidal Thames

I've often wondered what's at the end of the rope.

Interesting - the lower one is an hgv tyre as a mould?

No wonder mine has 'wandered' over this winter. Those wheels have been rollin'

 

[ianc1200]

Also all anchor threads are on Scuttlebutt, anyway we all know CQR's are best!

 

[macnorton]

It's not really the anchor thats the issue, the river bed is not always easy to get a firm hold of

Plus the rubbish that collects on the line increases the pull and then its away.

 

[Richard Shead]

Well I never thought I would see the day a Rocna thread creeps into the Thames Forum !

I am not getting involved any further. I have my views which are of course correct in my mind ! have a good weekend.

 

[Riverleak]

After reading all through the comments on this thread, I find that there are people who have very little understanding of the a river in high flow or flood. The river can be a difficult place to access in flood as we are all aware, and many people keep boats on shoestring budget so do not have luxury of a marina to keep their boat, that said many many thousands have a riverside home with convenience of a riverside mooring at the end And choose not to use a marina other than for maintenance, it is so obvious by some of the comments in this thread about the wrecked boat that those who have have commented to its detriment have a very limited knowledge of the river.

 

[MinorSwing]

...... it is so obvious by some of the comments in this thread about the wrecked boat that those who have have commented to its detriment have a very limited knowledge of the river.

Possibly limited knowledge of boats in general. There are many pseudo "experts" on here.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

It's not really the anchor thats the issue, the river bed is not always easy to get a firm hold of

Then you have little knowledge or experience of Mod' Gen' anchors.

They just keep going down until they find something to get hold of.

A Spade can go down many metres in silt until it gets to grip.... roll bar anchors a lot less.

S.

 

[prof pat pending]

Then you have little knowledge or experience of Mod' Gen' anchors.
.

I can't argue that

I still wouldn't leave my boat hanging off one for the winter...however great you told me it was

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

I can't argue that

I still wouldn't leave my boat hanging off one for the winter...however great you told me it was

nor I.

 

[prof pat pending]

So your point was??

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

So your point was??

that the owner may be liable due to negligence, that you know little about anchors and I would not leave my boat insecurely moored throughout the winter on the Thames.

Simple!

S.

 

[prof pat pending]

Seems to me that I know enough about anchors and you don't know enough about the river