I have to put my hands up and admit to being a complete prat

D3B

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Sorry for double posting, but i have just had a very nice weekend in Oostende with other forumites on the annual may bank holiday weekend pilgramage...........I went single handed across the North Sea for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed it....al the nerve gremlins seem to have disappeared and i have been enjoying my boating.....


Until.....
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This morning i left oostende bound for home via Neuiport <sp> for fuel with Sailorman and (sorry name escapes me for a moment) as crew....see i can get the raggies to try a mobo
they were just along for the ride and going back to Oostende by tram.

Duly filled up....actually overfilled the port tank ....said farewells and set off.
as you leave the harbour the bearing takes you straight to Cork Sand LV, which was my intended route.

forecast was E 3-4....but the wind was blowing much stronger and again i was taking water over the top.....not bothered....put the side forward quarter screen up and it stopped me getting soaked.

Then an alarm goes off on the starboard engine, so i hit neutral then switch it off. the panel shows....water in fuel.....how????????????

so i go down the engine room drain off the water in the pre filter.....then, diesel going everywhere....restart....then dies.....
This is the engine with the power steering......the only option was to return to Neuiport....


this is when i spotted something that was very very wrong.....

<<<<<<<<<<<the admission fits in here..........its at the bottom of my post.....>>>>>>>>

Then the port engine fails
checked the filters....nothing wrong.....so no option but a MAYDAY.
It turned out that Dover heard the call....relayed it to belgium who sent one of the police patrol vessels to investigate.....
they called a recovery vessel but could not get an ETA, but would stand on with me....

i decided to try the engines again.....starboard...nothing....port fired....so i called the police launch and informed i had power on the port engine but steering would be difficult. it was agreed that we make way for port and meet up with the recovery vessel.

eventually a short tow back into one of the marinas.
then the police paid a visit and checked all my documents were correct
I am now hoping an engineer will arrive on Tuesday to get the starboard engine started....i have full port tank so can use the switch over and run both engines on one tank.......
I just hope the engine hasnt been cooked by the water....

The weather for the next few days is forecast to be $hite so i will hopefully return home on Thursday...



Ohhh....



The admission.....






I didnt put the cap back onto the starboard tank filler.....so the water i was taking over the top was going into the tank.......YOU COMPLETE EFFING PRAT!!!!!!!!
 
Definately worth a try on a claim and I certainly hope they pay but... without wanting to appear unsympathetic... can this really be classed as an accident?

OK, I accept it is certainly the kind of thing that I could do. In fact, I have! I have left the filler off the fuel tank over night before but got away with it. However, I still would think that they would have good cause to refuse to pay on the grounds that he (and in my case I) had been negligent in not replacing the cap.

Am I alone in that assessment?

I hope I am wrong...
 
Maybe something to consider in the future, is a small chain to the filler cap so you don't forget to screw it on.

There's a lot to think about in strange ports, preparing for sea, especially on your own.

Hopefully the water hasn't caused too many serious problems.
 
Try the first option of a 'rescue services' call on the radio, if no response, work up to a 'pan pan'. I would think in a busy, narrow waterway (land based stations close by), you wouldn't be long without a reply.
 
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After that circus? never!

Recommend a locking fuel cap from forumite kevinA with key kept on the ignition set so can't start engine unless cap is secure.
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles Dougie - human error is a real pig - we've all been there but it doesn't help when you find yourself in a jam and feel you've done something daft!

Hope you get everything sorted and have a safe trip back.

Was the move to the new moorings a good one?
 
Hi Greg
daft is possibly being kind...
but as others have said it might be a reminder to us not to forget these things.

new mooring is great. much better than Lowestoft. so many more places to go in short distance.
 
Eeek! sounds like a scary experience.

It's easily done: I had a yachtie pointing at my centre sections shortly after leaving the fuel berth. Thought I had left a fender dangling, but no - it was the fuel cap dangling on it's chain /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Main thing is that crew plus boat are all still in one piece.
 
Leaving a filler cap off is nothing more than a simple error - the consequense don't change that. I think it is probably good to have a checklist to make sure that the little things aren't missed but how many of us actually do that? Don't beat yourself up too much /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

We have wondered about a move down there for the reasons you mention but only idle thoughts at the moment. Bit of a hke in mooring fees methinks /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
Of course it's an accident. It could only be negligent if he had noticed the cap was off, and decided to risk it, or if checking the fuel caps before setting off was a widely recognised procedure, which it isn't. Should be a fairly straight forward insurance claim.
 
Doug - bad luck. I'd also give a vote for the locking fuel cap affair. I fitted a Fuelock and when you've got it open you can't remove the key without "locking" it. You'd obviously not want to do that consciously when the cap is of the tank so hey-presto, your keys stay on the cap. I put gthe key on my ignition key ring and so there's no chance of forgetting to put it back on nor anyone being stupid enough to turn the engine over when I'm distracted re-fuelling. Mind you, mine's only a single tank and you might find it a pain when swapping from tank one to tank two. That said, small pain would prevent it happening again. If you're in Shotley, have a look at my tank cap on M04.

Regards

Chris
 
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And i see YET AGAIN you have altered the original post


I posted:
see i can get the raggies to try a mobo

why are you persistantly a nasty person?
 
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Of course it's an accident. It could only be negligent if he had noticed the cap was off, and decided to risk it, or if checking the fuel caps before setting off was a widely recognised procedure, which it isn't. Should be a fairly straight forward insurance claim.

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That is comforting to know... for all of us! Thanks
 
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why are you persistantly(misspelt) a nasty person?

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Why are you consistently illiterate?
Not surprising that you have an attitude problem towards teachers!

A positive solution which precludes a repetition of the water-in-fuel cock-up is how Forumites should contribute IMHO.

Bit difficult if you haven't got the miles in . . . . .
 
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So how many miles/hours do you think ive got in smart arse....

perhaps you might like to try for split between mobo hours and sailing.....

and i'll bet i have more than you....numpty!


and as for your childish comments about spelling & teachers....are you still teaching?.....leave it in the classroom and come out to play with the big boys
 
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