I have a friend who has

[claymore]

The most wonderful wife.
She has promised him full planning permission for a new mainsail and furling genoa.
No planning permission comes without a condition
The condition is that my friend stops smoking.
If I were a smoker - which I'm not - then all the adverts showing that gunge coming out of arteries would have stopped me for sure...but new sails - jings, what an offer.
Do we think it will happen and what could we do to help?

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[Twister_Ken]

What can we do to help?

We could nick his fags.

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[BlueSkyNick]

I think the friend in question has a wonderful wife, regardless of her approval for new sails!

He is a very lucky chap, and this should easily motivate him to give up the dreaded weed.

I know its not easy - I have been there myself. I wouldn't want to wish upon him the kind of shock or scare which caused me to quit, like many others.

Despite all the methods and potions, it all comes down to will power at the end of the day.


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[dralex]

Has she specified how long he has to stop smoking for, to earn the new sails. If not, then it's easy- stop for a few days, order the sails and pay for them, then cite stress of waiting for the new sails as a reason to start again. Winner all round ( apart from the impending divorce)

IMO, bargains like this can be a recipe for disaster unless you're/ he's actually committed to stopping smoking.

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[Katouf]

Should there be a bit of time spent on thought about the word 'planning' as opposed to the euphoria about 'permission'?
My SWMBO gave me permission to 'buy a boat' after being boatless for 15 years but withdrew the agreement (too late) when she found out that I wasn't joking when I said the cost per hour of enjoyment being equivalent to tearing up £5 notes whilst standing under a cold shower.
Women are reknowned for their fickle ways.

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[MissTrish]

Nick's right about willpower, but why not use any crutches that are around? Zyban worked for me finally, where the nicotine replacements failed time after time. Don't know how or why it works, but I've been off the weed 2.5 years now - could still light up again tomorrow, mind you.

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[Iota]

Step 1 Buy 200 Captstan extra strength
Step 2 Deprive of sleep for 24 hours, strong black coffee every 30 minutes, no food other than very greasy fish and chips plus the odd stale kebab
Step 3 For the next 24 hours coffee every 15 mins and back to back cigs.
Step 4 Allow 4 hours sleep and wake up to a bucket of strong black coffee & cigs...
Step 5 clean up

Well it worked for me and I have 'not been smoking today' for 20 years

The money paid also helped pay for the first boat in '86.

Iota

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[AlexL]

on a serious note, having a goal is almost essential to giving up smoking, however you need to want to quit, with the prize of new sails or whatever being a bonus, not the other way round.
For what its worth I gave up the weed about 2 years ago and paid for flying lessons with the money saved. I ended up spending more of course, but the not smoking paid for a fairly large portion of my PPL.

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[dralex]

Zyban is good, but about 1 in 1000 people have a seizure with it, which would potentially mean being unable to drive. Good stuff, but you have to assess the risk. NRT is good, but you still have the addiction to nicotine and feel the patch wearing off- it can also disturb sleep.

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[moodycruiser]

I used the patches successfully and when I got the craving if it started to wear off I took a pinch of snuff as a supplement - this lasted for a period of about two months, and I haven't smoked for the last seven years. Saved a fortune !
Now I'm wearing a KitKat wrapper on my arm in the hope of giving up chocolate !!

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[Gunfleet]

Might work. Sexual favour is usually a dead cert, though, and will cost her nothing except perhaps a French chamber maid's outfit.

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[mirabriani]

why be serious?
I was up to 10 per week on my paper round.
Then I joined an architects office and of course, took up a pipe.
After going a good shade of green a couple of times,
I gave up for ever

Regards Briani

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[ROCKETSHIP_11]

I have used the patches sucessfully, they are quite expensive and are available in 3 strenghts so rather than switching down to the weaker patches as directed I simply cut the strongest patches into four with scissors to reduce my dosage and stretched a one week pack into four weeks, I feel much better ( one year on ) the side benefits include greatly reduced hangovers and 200 quid extra per month to spend on my boating, I have also tried nicotine gum and lozenges and in my experience they are useless, The tobacco companies are evil I am so happy to be free of a dreadful addiction, my best wishes to your friend.


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[dralex]

You can get patches etc through your local surgery who will run smoking cessation sessions- much cheaper on prescription than buying yourself- downside is you have to find time to go to the clinics- they do however provide moral support.
The clear patches stick better. There is still a big argument for just going cold turkey as IMO patches etc make the withdrawl less intense, but spread it over a longer period. They are very good for overcoming cravings while you work on getting over the habit, which is actually the hardest bit.


BTW Claymore- do you really want this advice or is it all getting a bit serious?


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[tome]

I've tried patches (gave up for 3 months), chewing gum (4 months), zyban (5 months). Think I'll go cold turkey next time- the zyban had some very strange side effects especially when I stopped using them.

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[pessimist]

Tried the surgery patches method last year and failed miserably. Now into day 26 with no NRT and its almost ok. 'Course I've gained abou a stone and SHMO claims, incorrectly of course, that I've been just the slightest bit tetchy.

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[Ohdrat]

Re: I have a theory...

I that it is easier (from experience) to give up from rollies than it is easier to give up from "proper" cigarettes..

An ex colleague's father had worked as a scientist in the baccy industry and reckoned that the additives put in cigarettes were a) more harmful and b) more addictive than the baccy itself..

Only prob with rollies is that the rolling can be habit forming in itself!

Ofcourse your friend may get so frustrated trying to roll that he gives up because he can't get the thing to smoke!

 

[dralex]

Not surprised you felt strange after the Zyban- it's centrally acting ( ie brain) and started life as an antidepressant which by coincidence made some people in the trials not want to smoke.

I still miss my rollies at times, but those times are getting fewer and less often. As for a bit of temporary weight gain- so what - you can always get it off again- you can't get back your lung function.

Getting very serious and NB- but then again, smoking is a big part of sailing for some people, so definately boaty.

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[jimi]

Smoked 20+ a day for 24yrs gave up when I started getting chest pains .. tried everything prior to that but best way is big fright & cold turkey

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[tome]

I had a mate who gave up after a big fright, though I'd better not wait for that. Cold turkey it is then, praps with a few bits of chewing gum to get through the first 3 days.

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