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[BarryH]

Re: ah

Nope! sorry you got it all wrong CEVNI stands for "Hello, I'm a british boater, you can rip me off when you give me the change, and oh if you would like to abuse the wife go right ahead, call her all the names under the sun see if i care!" Oh and by the way mr frenchy harbour master I bloody well can understand what you are saying. Does' nt sound as im a Francophobe does it!

 

[paulineb]

merde de cochon

Mr Frenchy harbourmaster loves to be called this ;-)

Pauline B

 

[Guest]

Re: advanced french, xmas idea, plug

Can I again recommend a book "The Complete Merde - the french thay didn't teach you at school" by a writer using the pseudonym Genevieve. Fairly obvious why s/he uses a pseudonym, and I don't know who it is.

There. I think that's a very full guide to the ICC, with additional material for continental inlands waterways.

So why don't they publish it? Well, they might. Unfortunately, the magazines are already chock-full of some marvellous articles, including (in the january edition MBY, I beleieve) a guide to Marseilles which promises to be highly informative and very witty indeed.

 

[Scubadoo]

I believe ICC is still available after completing the RYA Powerboat Level 2, I've just had my ICC renewed, but does not include the CEVNI.

RM.

 

[Guest]

Re: CEVNI and ICC

In reply to matts wish to fill up the thread, for once I'll be serious and tell all about how I did both the CEVNI and ICC this year.

Having completed the YM Shorebased course I mentioned to my instructor\examanier that I also needed the CEVNI and ICC for going with MBM on their cruise to Holland, 'cos it was one of MBM's rules.

YM examanier sold me the little RYA approved book, about £9, written by Marian Martin, she of the other website not allowed to be mentioned here and a somtime contributor though not for some time to the Buttscuttle forum. Little book is incredibly boring (not Marian's fault it's the subject matter that's boring). It details all the different bouys, lights and what to do if you see a boat coming towards you waving a blue cushion out of the starboard window, (really) and how to overtake tugs and more lights and stuff and the differences between French inland waterways, Dutch, Belgium, German etc. Rules are slightly different in each country and mostly different to IRPCS and as I said incredubly boring.

So I had a fascinating couple of evenings reading the book and one evening when we'd finished our YM stuff for the night the lecturer picked up the book, pointed at a couple of the signs, asked me what they were, I read the answers and he gave me my certificate. So that's the CEVNI done, now for the ICC.

At that stage my boat was based on the river, so same examiner came down to the boat one evening, Tut and me took him and his girlfriend (but don't tell his wife) on the boat to a pub a bit further upriver. Had a couple of pints and then drove back to the marina and he gave me the ICC and I gave him a tenner. I did ask him if he wanted me to do manoverboard and stuff and he said what would I do if someone fell overboard and I said I'd go back and get them and he said that's good enough for me, I'll have another pint please Colin.

So I'm a great believer in RYA qualifications.

If someone's studied long and hard to get the certificates I don't think you lot should take the p**s out of them.

 

[Guest]

Re: CEVNI and ICC: exam

So not too bad if you are already a Yachtmaster and loads of eons boating then.

Supplementary questions:
1. what does CEVNI mean?
2. what drink did you buy the ICC instructor?
3. what was the name of his girlfriend?
4. what was the name of the pub?
5. what does the blue cushion out of the window mean? that is definite rubbish cos most boats havnae cushions, blue or otherwise. Discuss

You may begin...

 

[Guest]

Re: CEVNI and ICC: exam

CEVNI is a UN instrument which unifies signs and standardises navigational procedures on inland European watrways. Incorporates the RPNR, RGPF and BPR regs too.

(See I've found the book and am reading form it. Riveting stuff.)

1. Code Europeen des Voies de la Navigation Interieure.
2. IPA. (11/2 pints for me 'cos I was driving; 3 pints him 'cos poofy yottie in real life and trying to be 'ard and manly.
3. Bernice ( 3 G&T's and then anybody's. Tut had tea)
4.The River Mill at Eaton Socon, (nice pub, crap food)
5. Blue Cushion. Ah, well now seriously,

Quote from the boring book, "Euro Regs for Inland Waterways", ISBN 0 7136 5008 7 Adlard Coles £5.

Quote

On class 1 waterways, Normal vessels which are travelling downstream have priority of those travelling upstream but upstream vessels choose which side they will give way on. Upstream vessels which are leaving a course for downstream vessels on their port side make no signal

By day, upstream vessels, which are leaving a course for downstream vessels to starboard display a waved blue flag, a bright scintillating white light, or a light blue board (with or without a bright scintillating white light at its centre) to starboard. By night, the board with scintillating light, or the light alone is used.

Downstream vessels acknowledge that they understand that upstream vessels are leaving a course to starboard by also displaying a blue board on their starboard side.

These signals can be seen whether the boat concerned is ahead or astern and are are displayed until passing is complete. They must not be displayed after passing except where upstream vessels intend to go on leaving a starboard passing course for downstream vessels.

End of quote.

As examiner explained, if you don't happen to have a blue board handy, a blue cushion is perfectly acceptable since all boats carry blue cushions!

Hope this has helped to clarify the situation. Trust you will now get eyeties to manufacture suitable blue cushion with scintillating white light at centre. Please can you get them to make two, since I seem to have lost mine. Whilst you've got them doing that, could they also make me a nice boat to go round my blue cushion. Not too fussy as long as it looks very similar to Fartline Squadron, but definitely not a targa. Perhaps blue hull to match cushion would be best?

 

[Guest]

Re: A**! but..

another legal headache for kh from the wotsit pub.

Most intresting re blue cushion on starboard side. I bet you are despret for someone to do that, and go up that side. But at last minute you may find they are just shaking the table cloth, or praps having a pillow fight. So praps oughta wear a silly hat at the same time.