Hunting debate.....nb

[Bejasus]

whilst there are thousands currently protesting outside parliament, there are probably less than 30 inside actually debating this issue. Mainly talking ignorant drivel.
Nothing new there then. /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

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[woody001]

And how does this relate to yachts?

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[Becky]

What saddens me is not that foxes are killed by dogs, but that some people get pleasure from such brutality. If you want to control foxes, just build more cars.

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[iangrant]

Touchy old subject debated for political reasons - by people that don't understand life in the country - ever seen the devistation a fox makes on a raid??

Ian

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[Clive_Rigden]

Well said Ian!


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[Clive_Rigden]

S'pose it'll have to be winter sailing as well from the year after next . . .
Tally-Ahoy !

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[Talbot]

Worse than that , the english hunting will be banned by scottish MPs, who have already banned it in their area. (with no English or Welsh MPs eligable to vote) - so why should they have any say about an English issue.

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[Beagle]

I think the question is not should foxes be controlled but should be allow another 'good ol' tradition' upheld or not. As a non-UK person, don't understand some of your traditions anyway, just am glad we got rid of some silliness in Holland years ago (one of them included killing pigs as a 'sport', the other one was about geese in a hoored way.
Is the UK Fox hunt not similair to something like Spanish bull-fighting?

rene.

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[iangrant]

Nothing like it at all, the whiley old fox mainly gets away - most of them are shot when they go to ground not torn apart by "dogs" as is widely advertised by the anti's. I've seem anti's attack horses, and huntsmen, and most of them are low life scruffy sods. All due respect to the honest protester.

Next ban will be shooting, oh and how cruel is fishing? This ban and control nonsense has to stop, leave the countryside alone.


Ian

Ian

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[snowleopard]

badgers are probably causing TB so let's re-legalise badger baiting. and what about cock fighting and bear-baiting while we're at it?

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[Clive_Rigden]

To rub salt into the wound, hunting not yet banned in Scotland but once the hunt had been successful the fox must be dispatched with a gun.

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[jhr]

Famously described, by Oscar Wilde, as "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable". I've never been able to see the point of it myself, and there are far more effective and humane ways of controlling what is, I accept, a serious pest to farmers.

I don't subscribe to the school of thought that foxes are cute little creatures that we should nurture and cherish (and have you ever smelt them?/forums/images/icons/crazy.gif). They are vicious little tykes who kill for pleasure but, having seen the mess that a hunt can make, riding across someone's property - which they often do, without consent - I'm not wild about huntsmen either. Fox-hunting is a part of English country tradition, but so was bear-baiting. Good riddance, I say.

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[BrendanS]

why do you think it says 'nb' in the subject line.

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[woody001]

Did you here what happened to that young boy who was mistaken for a fox?

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[Beagle]

It's just the 'sport' factor that I don't understand. If too many foxes are becomming a problem in a certain area, I am sure that many good sollutions are available (even shooting, just not as a sport). Fishing, no problem with that whatsoever (although I don't like it). As a sport, catch some and return some. Or even take em home and grill em! In a perfect world, the money raised from licences should keep the quantity of fish balanced.

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[Clive_Rigden]

Good name for hunting, Beagle! Yes of course the tradition should be allowed to continue - it's not cruel and the death is far more certain than shooting from a distance, poisoning &c. It's very much a part of the way countryfolk socialize and wotsitcallednow, ah yes, network. Oh, and neither is it an "upper class" persuit but goes right accross the socioeconomic and age ranges.

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[BrendanS]

Apart from being a fine tradition, foxes do need to be culled to keep the population under control. There are sound ecological reasons why hunts maintain a healthy population, as it is the weak, elderly and infirm who tend to be culled. Shooting is more indescriminate, and is a likely to take out young fit animals. Shooting in the open is also not an ideal solution. Foxes are wary, fast, and quite small - it's easy to wound not kill.

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[Mirelle]

I don\'t think this is "non-boaty"

I think that this has a rather direct application to us.

For reasons which have been, and will be, done to death, the Party in power has decided to use the Parliament Act, normally only used for emergency legislation, to drive through an act to outlaw a sport.

Until now the laws of England have been remarkably silent about foxhunting.

Anyone who messes about in boats should be paying close attention to this - we may very well be next - we won't be outlawed, but compulsory licensing, control of discharges, and compulsory qualifications, accompanied by a tax to pay for all the bureaucracy, is highly likely.

Remeber, however difficult we may find this to believe, that sailing is reckoned by most non-sailors to be a "rich man's sport", just like foxhunting.

Two previous Labour Governments imposed "luxury taxes" on sailing and effectively throttled the British boatbuilding industry, so there is ample precedent.

I've never sat a horse in my life, let alone chased a fox on one, but I am 100% behind the foxhunters.

(I hope everyone has noticed that this Government considers foxhunting to be of greater importance than pensions...)

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[spyship]

It's rather patronising, this 'people that don't understand life in the country' attitude. How many people these days keep chickens in their back yard? And have you ever seen the devastation when the hunt has been through an area? I think they deserve to be banned just for the arrogant way they behave, going on private property, killing peoples pets (no apology unless prompted and no compensation offered). I have known peoples chickens and ducks to be killed by the hunt, not foxes!

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[Beagle]

Hmmmm... with my limited knowledge regarding English Fox hunting, am I correct to sence some irony in your statements? (I have visions of old men in gay-ish clothes calling each other 'chaps' who are so richt that from cheer boredom they don't know how to pass time..... My humble appologies if this vision is wrong....)

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