How Stormy A Sea Have You Been in?

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I've been watching this thread unfold with great amusement! It reminds me of when I was a teenager and you got the guys who came in on a Monday morning claiming their sexual conquests over the weekend. Turned out they'd done bugger all! It was those that said nothing that had actually done the business, after all they had nothing to prove to anyone! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
So having mow come out into the open, have you performed, or are you just after bragging rights /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Some of the kids in school who had performed used to try to teach techniques above and beyond a quickie, and it was the guys with more than a little experience who taught. The first time wonders were just incredulous they'd got away with it.
 
Now, now, stop trying to change the subject to something in which you are expert /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

John
 
Shhhhhhhhhhhh - now that would be telling! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif But let's put it this way, what I would go out in now is considerably different to when I first started boating. I do recall a very interesting trip from Bristol to Poole almost 2 years to the day - forget wind speed, but the sea state was more than a little rough! But then I was on a 10 metre rib with a 330hp diesel with a single jet drive which climbed 5 metre waves with great aplomb. She was as also a reasonably comfortable bed when we had to make an unscheduled stop in St Ives as the sea state was too much for mere mortals to round Lands End in a very strong "blow" at night. When we started the trip, the boat was an ugly bitch, at the end she was simply beautiful!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

There is a very simple saying - fair weather never made a good sailor. I don't go doing silly things, I have to much respect for the power of the sea, but then I'll be happy in conditions that would make a lot of people green with fear. But then I'd poop myself being driven by a rally driver around forest roads.



PS - I was one of the nine that said they'd been out in a F10. I'll admit though the boat was a bit bigger than 21ft, but less than 35!
 
Just as a matter of interest how long would you say a rough sea state takes to revert to calm once the wind dies down

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and I know both trips to which you allude. One of them very sad, but nothing to do with seamanship - though he was a great seaman, and did teach me a great deal.

Long cruising trips are very different to popping out in strong winds in good sea states, well within home range of port. It's a shame that people can't tell the difference. Cruising is fun, rough is fun if you keep it short and simple, cruising in rough sea conditions is fun if everything else pulls together and you have the boat for it, popping out in high winds is fun if the sea conditions are ok, what is not nice is when the two or more combine.

All I can say is to add to your "fair weather never made a good sailor". You are correct. And a shame that others that have actually been out in these conditions wouldn't add more, as we could all learn, if only Gludy and others wouldn't take it as hunting season and frighten them all off
 
No idea! I think it would depend on a whole range of factors such as tide, springs vs neaps, effect of land mass, wind direction and the consistency of the blow, high or low pressure systems. To be honest I've never really thought about it. It's not something that has occupied my mind. I certainly consider the weather and conditions more if I'm running a course, although that will vary as to the kind of course. Level 2 or Advanced PB courses are at very different ends of the spectrum.

As to my own boating, if it's just a potter out then I'll look out of the window at home and drive 10 mins to the boat. Longer trips will involve much more planning. I will also take into consideration the crew with me. What I will do on my own is very different to what I'll do with my family. Even a boys day out will take into account the boating expereince of the lads. When I'm on my own? Brendan, you up for it? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Look we are having some Gludy weather for a change!

Issued at: 9:12 am 12 Mar 2005 NZDT
Valid to: 11:59 pm 12 Mar 2005 NZDT
Forecast
Variable 10 knots, becoming southeast 15 knots this afternoon. Sea slight. Southerly swell 1 metre.
Outlook
following 12 hours: Southeast 15 knots.


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John
 
Indeed, very good authority. And if only Gludy would back off the hunting season, he might actually learn about real life experiences he's never had, but is putting off people from posting as they'll get no end of grief justifying their decisions
 
Re: Look we are having some Gludy weather for a change!

The only one I`ve experienced was a short trip from Poole to Lymington.
The wind blew F8 all day then at just before midnight it died away.
So we set off in light winds but still very rough seas all the way to Lymington.

So could it work the other way and although the wind has worked up to a F10 the sea state is relatively calm. Is that what you are talking about.

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I'm the same. Very few are the people I'd take to West country on a trip from the Solent on a 21' boat across Lyme Bay, though I'd take many to Weymouth as that is a very different trip, and I'm gauging conditions the whole time. I don't need or require to be worrying about crew when taking a trip like that.

My preference would be to people that had done it before in similar size boats. It's not that it's dangerous or hazardous, it's more to do with being out of sight of land for a few hours, same as cross channel, or coping if things do get rough.....it's easier to cope with if you don't have to handle distractions like people getting scared of going up and down waves that are quite safe, but a little frightening if you are not used to boating.
 
Re: Look we are having some Gludy weather for a change!

Poole to Lymington meant you came across Christchurch ledge - infamous!! The area has stories to tell and the sea and wind are aggravated by the sea bed. Nasty piece of water at times there! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
Re: Look we are having some Gludy weather for a change!

That`s not an answer that`s a sneer.

Give me an answer. If you can read it through the red haze.

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Just to put an oar in. Yes. I keep out of Gludy threads mostly. There I've said it. Now I'm buggering off again into calmer waters. Gludys all talk and no ears with a mouth and ego as big as Portsmouth. Suppose this will require 10,000 replies. But at least I wont be listening!
 
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