How much per hour?

[ricky_s]

How much would you expect to pay someone to work on your boat per hour? General repairs etc.

Mainly aimed at peeps on the south coast.

 

[gjgm]

Somewhat depends what work , I think. It seems practice isnt just to time the work, but for the journey, putting on the handbrake, getting out of the car, opening thermos flask, and so on
£35 minimum, but 3/4 of the day probably means you get charged all day as there isnt time to start another job !
I think it might get costed per job, not per hour. Someone suggested a top guy shouldnt be charging less than £500 a day, or he cant be that good.
Anyway, I would expect to pay at least twice

 

[Lakesailor]

It seems practice isnt just to time the work, but for the journey, putting on the handbrake, getting out of the car, opening thermos flask, and so on
£35 minimum, but 3/4 of the day probably means you get charged all day as there isnt time to start another job !

....so who should pay for the non-fee-earning parts of the day?

Of course it's the customer. That is the income stream.

I had these issues when I was a commercial photographer and so I used to quote per-job. Then you can winge as much as you like about me scratching my arse, it doesn't make any difference.

 

[epervier]

How much would you expect to pay someone to work on your boat per hour? General repairs etc.

Mainly aimed at peeps on the south coast.

you can use this as a yard stick:-

SUMMARY OF BOATYARD LABOUR RATES PER HOUR
1st year Apprentice £14.00
2nd year Apprentice £22.00
3rd year Apprentice £28.00
4th year Apprentice £34.00
Semi-skilled £34.00
Improver £36.00
Skilled £42.00
Premium skilled £43.00
Charge hand £44.00
Senior charge hand £45.00
Foreman £46.00
Out of hours call out charge - first hour £100.00

plus 20% vat.

Taken from a reputable south coast boatyard website.

 

[MapisM]

Then you can winge as much as you like about me scratching my arse, it doesn't make any difference.

I would have thought that you were more at risk of being criticised for caring about your subject arse, rather than your own...

 

[Lakesailor]

Model's arses are chargeable events.

 

[scubaman]

you can use this as a yard stick:-

SUMMARY OF BOATYARD LABOUR RATES PER HOUR
1st year Apprentice £14.00
2nd year Apprentice £22.00
3rd year Apprentice £28.00
4th year Apprentice £34.00
Semi-skilled £34.00
Improver £36.00
Skilled £42.00
Premium skilled £43.00
Charge hand £44.00
Senior charge hand £45.00
Foreman £46.00
Out of hours call out charge - first hour £100.00

plus 20% vat.

Taken from a reputable south coast boatyard website.

Jeez... We used to have three categories for skills based invoicing and even that was too many. But eleven categories??

Rookies probably all fall into semi-skilled category, the rest to the senior charge hand or foreman

 

[oldsaltoz]

I would never offer to do any job by the hour.

A detailed description of what I will do and a total price.

Also a clause to cover any unexpected findings, hence the detailed description up front.

This we both know what is expected and the total cost, I have had very few, perhaps one in 30 when I have needed to do extra work, and only then after an agreement with the owner after a full explanation of the findings.

Paying people by the hour is just asking to be overcharged. Always ask for a total cost agreement that is all inclusive.

Good luck and fair winds.

 

[omega2]

Cannot the jobs be D.I.Y?

 

[gjgm]

I would never offer to do any job by the hour.

A detailed description of what I will do and a total price.

Also a clause to cover any unexpected findings, hence the detailed description up front.

This we both know what is expected and the total cost, I have had very few, perhaps one in 30 when I have needed to do extra work, and only then after an agreement with the owner after a full explanation of the findings.

Paying people by the hour is just asking to be overcharged. Always ask for a total cost agreement that is all inclusive.

Good luck and fair winds.

Well if you charge by the hour you arent too worried how long the job takes, surely? Once you've quoted what happens if it turns into a stinker of a job?

 

[davids0865]

Well if you charge by the hour you arent too worried how long the job takes, surely? Once you've quoted what happens if it turns into a stinker of a job?

That's what being a specialist in your arena is about, the ability to accurately estimate time and materials required to complete the job. As has been said, with a detailed description and the clause to cover genuinely unforseen problems, has worked for me for many years, in fact the majority of stinker jobs (or clients) have been on hourly rates ( or day ) and strengthen my resolve to avoid like the plague

 

[oldsaltoz]

Well if you charge by the hour you arent too worried how long the job takes, surely? Once you've quoted what happens if it turns into a stinker of a job?

The fact that charging by hour will cost more because as you say
Quote:you arent too worried how long the job takes, surely?

By first providing a detailed statement of what work is involved in the quote, any 'extra' work would have to be negotiated and a price agreed.

If you don't know what jobs can develop into stinkers you should not be doing this type of work.

If it is a job that 'may' turn into a stinker, I make a point of pointing this out in the original statement and advise that some renegotiation will be required.

Then again if it's only a little stinker, I would normally just deal with it and not bother charging, you win some you loose some; the important thing is the job is done to a standard not to a price, and not a rip off.

Good luck and fair winds.

 

[AndieMac]

Jeez... We used to have three categories for skills based invoicing and even that was too many. But eleven categories??

Rookies probably all fall into semi-skilled category, the rest to the senior charge hand or foreman

Seeing as we have drifted from the south coast of England...

Locally we tend to have a self employed worker rate of GBP 48.00 plus 10% GST per hour, and a major dealership worker rate of GBP 60.00 plus 10% GST, regardless of who is doing the work, from 1st year apprentices to post retirees.

 

[scubaman]

Seeing as we have drifted from the south coast of England...

Locally we tend to have a self employed worker rate of GBP 48.00 plus 10% GST per hour, and a major dealership worker rate of GBP 60.00 plus 10% GST, regardless of who is doing the work, from 1st year apprentices to post retirees.

We've now have similar pricing. Three types of work with their own prices. It's a lot simpler for the customer.

 

[volvopaul]

Wowww im not charging enough!!!

Seriously jobs on boats have to be quoted for, as I mostly travel to each job, when the job is completed thre is little time to travel to another marina, although I do try and plan to group jobs together.

 

[The engineer]

Whilst I have an hourly rate, it is only used to create the quote. The price then becomes fixed other than in exceptional circumstances. This has the benefit of taking the pressure away from me of a client watching my every move and his watch at the same time.
As has already been stated an experienced professional should be able to judge the magnitude of the job. If he can't one has to question his experience and ability. I am referring to engineering work here and other work would have different restrictions on the ability to make a fixed quote I am sure. I would not like to quote on things I cannot see that are hidden behind furniture and may be rotten if I were a shipwright.

 

[alant]

you can use this as a yard stick:-

SUMMARY OF BOATYARD LABOUR RATES PER HOUR
1st year Apprentice £14.00
2nd year Apprentice £22.00
3rd year Apprentice £28.00
4th year Apprentice £34.00
Semi-skilled £34.00
Improver £36.00
Skilled £42.00
Premium skilled £43.00
Charge hand £44.00
Senior charge hand £45.00
Foreman £46.00
Out of hours call out charge - first hour £100.00

plus 20% vat.

Taken from a reputable south coast boatyard website.

Instructor/Delivery Skippers = £ ?/hr