Walnut
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I want to give up my job and earn money sailing. Anyone got any legal ideas?
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How can I make some money sailing?
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StugeronSteve
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Probably fairly easy to earn "some money", earning enough is another matter entirely.
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Kristal
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Is Privateering still legal?
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Benbow
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IMHO, if you are the 'right kind of person' its not difficult to survive by doing deliveries, freelance teaching etc. Some people seem to do this happily, have essentially no money but have a great lifestyle revolving around sailing, drinking and general debauchery. It is very very difficult to make enough to support a family or even a pet hamster.
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Walnut
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My idea is to get some sailing at someone else's expense. I was thinking to finish of the YM exam if it would be of some financial benefit. I think that people would have more confidence in a skipper who has it. I guess I don't need a great deal of income because my current out goings are quite modest and could be reduced further. I think beer and debauchery would suit me fine.
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alant
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"difficult to survive" - most skippers would agree with this, even without the "drinking and general debauchery" or even any more specific debauchery come to that.
Best idea so far, seems to be the guys off the East Coast -+12miles limit- who have opened a take away bottle shop.
A "red light" ship could work, but taking 2-3 hours to sail out & same to sail back seems a bit much, just for 15 mins pleasure (& most of that taken up by fixing mooring lines).
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Best idea so far, seems to be the guys off the East Coast -+12miles limit- who have opened a take away bottle shop.
A "red light" ship could work, but taking 2-3 hours to sail out & same to sail back seems a bit much, just for 15 mins pleasure (& most of that taken up by fixing mooring lines).
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Walnut
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Bottle shop, knocking shop, we could start up an offshore shopping center. What else could we have? Tax free fuel barge and offshore banking.
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paulskent
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I'me interested in the
15 mins pleasure that includes the use of mooring lines...
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15 mins pleasure that includes the use of mooring lines...
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Benbow
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Don't over estimate the significance of a YM exam. It is probably true that a commercially endorsed YM is an essential minimum. But after that you have to make contact with the world you are trying to move into. The best way to do that is to do lots of sailing with professionals, let it be known that you are available and hope that work comes your way. If all else fails, unpaid but 'all found' work is a useful start . A YM instructor qualification is virtually essential if you want to move into the sailing school world.
If you just want to sail for free that is much easier. There seems to be an infinite number of people looking for experienced people to sail with them in one role or another. Over the last few years probably 90% of my miles have been on OPBs.
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If you just want to sail for free that is much easier. There seems to be an infinite number of people looking for experienced people to sail with them in one role or another. Over the last few years probably 90% of my miles have been on OPBs.
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Peppermint
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Re: Who do you know
in sailing.
The easy way to get in is through someone you know. Or to have exceptional talent.
You will need the YM and commercial bits. You will need to demonstrate an ability to get along with people.
I've only known a handful of guys who made real money out of the job and two of them are knighted. The other guy was a charterboat operator in Norway. He did corporate adventure sailing in an ex Admirals Cup boat. He made loads of money but he was a natural salesman with a fund of good contacts. He also sailed 50k mile a year which is very hard work.
A mate of mine has a son leading a flotilla around Greece. He gets about £125 per week and all found, plus tips, plus shirt money. He never has to buy a drink or a meal out either. He works very hard from Feb to Oct and does the London boatshow. He does actually save most of his dosh too.
Around the Solent you might make £100-200 per day, if your lucky but that won't be regular and they will be long days.
To make real wages you should finish your YM, accept a sailing job ASAP and keep at it for three years, get an MCA watchkeeping or engineering certificate and you can get a job on a Superyacht. There is a shortage of qualified guys and the pay is anywhere from £30 -100k
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in sailing.
The easy way to get in is through someone you know. Or to have exceptional talent.
You will need the YM and commercial bits. You will need to demonstrate an ability to get along with people.
I've only known a handful of guys who made real money out of the job and two of them are knighted. The other guy was a charterboat operator in Norway. He did corporate adventure sailing in an ex Admirals Cup boat. He made loads of money but he was a natural salesman with a fund of good contacts. He also sailed 50k mile a year which is very hard work.
A mate of mine has a son leading a flotilla around Greece. He gets about £125 per week and all found, plus tips, plus shirt money. He never has to buy a drink or a meal out either. He works very hard from Feb to Oct and does the London boatshow. He does actually save most of his dosh too.
Around the Solent you might make £100-200 per day, if your lucky but that won't be regular and they will be long days.
To make real wages you should finish your YM, accept a sailing job ASAP and keep at it for three years, get an MCA watchkeeping or engineering certificate and you can get a job on a Superyacht. There is a shortage of qualified guys and the pay is anywhere from £30 -100k
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alant
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It's a bondage thing.
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alant
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Re: Who do you know
"Around the Solent you might make £100-200 per day" - who do you have to kill for that? Most sailing schools pay from £60/65 per day up to £85 max. Event companies pay about £125 to very experienced people & this is looking after clients 24 hrs. Let me know who pays £200 please.
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"Around the Solent you might make £100-200 per day" - who do you have to kill for that? Most sailing schools pay from £60/65 per day up to £85 max. Event companies pay about £125 to very experienced people & this is looking after clients 24 hrs. Let me know who pays £200 please.
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Peppermint
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Re: Yeah right nm
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StugeronSteve
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Re: Who do you know
"Around the Solent you might make £100-200 per day" - who do you have to kill for that?
Jet Skiers probably. I think Chichester and Potsmouth Harbours are paying about a tenner a head at the moment. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
<hr width=100% size=1>Think I'll draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.
"Around the Solent you might make £100-200 per day" - who do you have to kill for that?
Jet Skiers probably. I think Chichester and Potsmouth Harbours are paying about a tenner a head at the moment. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif
<hr width=100% size=1>Think I'll draw some little rabbits on my head, from a distance they might be mistaken for hairs.
Tim_Bennett
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A different way to do things: Don't give up your job but take on more jobs, work 24/7 until you're nearly dead from exhaustion doing highly paid jobs nobody else will do. Then retire young and buy your own yacht living off the money you made from your working days. Boring I know, but realistic at least.
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alant
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Re: Yeah right nm
Just had a confirmation of 'wages' paid by a leading Sea School based in Solent area.
"Cruising Instructors are paid £65/day
Yacht Master Instructors are paid £70/day"
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Just had a confirmation of 'wages' paid by a leading Sea School based in Solent area.
"Cruising Instructors are paid £65/day
Yacht Master Instructors are paid £70/day"
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powerskipper
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Working for a school on average
Power cruising instructors about £80 a day.
YM instructors power £100 to 140 a day depending on what you are doing.
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Julie
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Power cruising instructors about £80 a day.
YM instructors power £100 to 140 a day depending on what you are doing.
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Julie
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My advice is forget it - if you need to make enought to live normally, eg pay a mortgage, car loan. credit cards, groceries, then anything you do sailing to make enough will probably destroy your joy in it.
Instead, buy a boat you can afford for cash, cut your outgoings to a minimum and find a job which is flexible enough to take shedloads of time off when you want but still makes a modicum of money. The cheaper you can live the further you can sail . . .
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Instead, buy a boat you can afford for cash, cut your outgoings to a minimum and find a job which is flexible enough to take shedloads of time off when you want but still makes a modicum of money. The cheaper you can live the further you can sail . . .
- Nick
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snowleopard
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If you want a good wage, go the superyacht route, for which YM is inadequate. Otherwise it's going to be hard graft either doing delivery work or instructing. Be prepared to earn very little till you can break into the market.
You could spend 15 years grafting at a boaty job for a pittance, always going where and when others want to or you could spend 10 years in a boring job ashore then 5 years sailing for pleasure and going where you want to.
You could spend 15 years grafting at a boaty job for a pittance, always going where and when others want to or you could spend 10 years in a boring job ashore then 5 years sailing for pleasure and going where you want to.
Lakesailor
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People who make a nice extra income from guvvies are dismayed when they jack in the main job because they feel they can make more as freelances. Mechanics are a perfect example. Many people who have always been in employment don't realise the costs of self-employment, or the time taken in non-earing tasks that are needed to run even a small business.
Another thing to understand is that a good way to ruin an enjoyable hobby is to do it professionally. Ask photographers.
Another thing to understand is that a good way to ruin an enjoyable hobby is to do it professionally. Ask photographers.
