Hosepipe Ban WILL Seriously Hurt Boaters

[MY littlebirchwoo]

After speaking at length with Anglian Water today, it appears that the hosepipe ban won't just make washing your boat illegal - with a possible £1000 fine - if you use the boat for recreational purposes, you won't be able to draw water through a pipe in order to fill your water tank. - their wording is Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic or recreational use
I initially thought there may be some leeway, but the person who I spoke to said that 'they could easily enfoce the ban on commercial properties that serve recreational customers as all are regulated via a water meter and especially customers using automatic meters (ie ones that they dont physically have to turn up and read)

This hosepipe ban is not like 20 years ago - this time they have the technology to see who is flouting it, so unlike some optimists who believe this isn't the case, I have it from the horses mouth!

Dark days ahead.

By the way - if you use your vessel as your primary residence, then you are not required to comply with the ban... maybe I will 'move into' the boat for the summer.. I guess it will mean that public water points will have their hoses removed though.

 

[oGaryo]

disconnect the pipe, fill a few buckets and pour it in the tank

 

[Nick_H]

After speaking at length with Anglian Water today, it appears that the hosepipe ban won't just make washing your boat illegal - with a possible £1000 fine - if you use the boat for recreational purposes, you won't be able to draw water through a pipe in order to fill your water tank. - their wording is Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic or recreational use
I initially thought there may be some leeway, but the person who I spoke to said that 'they could easily enfoce the ban on commercial properties that serve recreational customers as all are regulated via a water meter and especially customers using automatic meters (ie ones that they dont physically have to turn up and read)

This hosepipe ban is not like 20 years ago - this time they have the technology to see who is flouting it, so unlike some optimists who believe this isn't the case, I have it from the horses mouth!

Dark days ahead.

By the way - if you use your vessel as your primary residence, then you are not required to comply with the ban... maybe I will 'move into' the boat for the summer.. I guess it will mean that public water points will have their hoses removed though.

I think you spoke to a jobsworth. Of course we'll still be allowed to use hose pipes to fill up our fresh water tanks. Washing boats may well be a different story though.

 

[gravygraham]

. . .this time they have the technology to see who is flouting it . . .

I'm sorry, but I think this is a load of cobblers. Unless you're referring to a man and his binoculars in a helicopter circling above suburbia on Sunday mornings.

 

[volvopaul]

Bad news for boat valeting companies.

How about car washes then, will they have to close down?

I must admit last week the car park was half flooded at Shamrock quay all down to a boat valeter washing a boat who could not be bothered to fit a gun to the end of the hose and turn it off when not req, im surprised the marina staff said nothing.

Maybe he was trying to create a swimming pool( which gives a clue as to which forum member the said boat was).

 

[SolentPhill]

Said on BBC news car cleaning co at this stage will not be effected.

What's stopping us washing our boats using our hoses, mine is 30ft long at rear and 10 ft on bow.

 

[MY littlebirchwoo]

I have written to the head of media at Anglian Water this evening as their media team couldn't give me a direct answer. At the end of the day, I cant see too many boaters being too bothered about the ban - especially as the risk of being caught as an individual is almost negligeable, hoiwever, I can imaging that some over-officious marinas will be hanging up their hoses.

We have already had to put up with the 'use your own hose' and it 'must be a blue hose' cobblers - quite frankly the person I spoke to today was a bloomin josworth and seemed very pleased with himself that 'Anglian Water' would be able to administer their sword of justice - so I quoted him in a public article.

I've also included that in myemail to their head of media!

So if I get a reply that has been re-thought, then I daresay that employee will be given some immediate 're-training'!!!!

 

[sailorman]

After speaking at length with Anglian Water today, it appears that the hosepipe ban won't just make washing your boat illegal - with a possible £1000 fine - if you use the boat for recreational purposes, you won't be able to draw water through a pipe in order to fill your water tank. - their wording is Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic or recreational use
I initially thought there may be some leeway, but the person who I spoke to said that 'they could easily enfoce the ban on commercial properties that serve recreational customers as all are regulated via a water meter and especially customers using automatic meters (ie ones that they dont physically have to turn up and read)

This hosepipe ban is not like 20 years ago - this time they have the technology to see who is flouting it, so unlike some optimists who believe this isn't the case, I have it from the horses mouth!

Dark days ahead.

By the way - if you use your vessel as your primary residence, then you are not required to comply with the ban... maybe I will 'move into' the boat for the summer.. I guess it will mean that public water points will have their hoses removed though.

well when the inland rivers dry up all you boaters will save on Red deisel.
we can go to Belgium to bunker Water

 

[Momac]

Bad news for boat valeting companies.

How about car washes then, will they have to close down?

.

Businesses that provide a service are not affected.

 

[Koeketiene]

we can go to Belgium to bunker Water

 

[sailorman]

Paxo is on the case now on newsnight

 

[rickaskin]

Surely, in this instance, the marinas are the people who are paying water bills on our behalf, as a business, therefore the use doesn't qualify as "domestic and recreational"??

 

[Momac]

- their wording is Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic or recreational use

The bit I read, and have copied, from the Anglian Water website says the ban includes
''Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic recreational use''. The small word 'or' being significant.

So recreational use is banned (unless it is non domestic , ie part of the use of a business).

Filling a domestic water tank on a boat (or a caravan) is not recreational use. Surely it is normal domestic use which is not intended to be part of a hosepipe ban ?

I feel you have not explained the use of the tank water to the person at the water authority and you have been given the easy but incorrect answer. If you explain the water is for normal domestic activities such as personal hygene and cooking you will receive a different response.

Please do get back in touch with Anglian Water and report back.

 

[sailorman]

The bit I read, and have copied, from the Anglian Water website says the ban includes
''Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic recreational use''. The small word 'or' being significant.

So recreational use is banned (unless it is non domestic , ie part of the use of a business).

Filling a domestic water tank on a boat (or a caravan) is not recreational use. Surely it is normal domestic use which is not intended to be part of a hosepipe ban ?

I feel you have not explained the use of the tank water to the person at the water authority and you have been given the easy but incorrect answer. If you explain the water is for normal domestic activities such as personal hygene and cooking you will receive a different response.

Please do get back in touch with Anglian Water and report back.

how many inspectors do AW actually have to snoop about at the w/e

 

[gjgm]

I think we can assume that just the suggestion of a hosepipe ban means large parts of the UK are about to be seriously flooded.

 

[oldgit]

Rubbish

Being ancient enuff to have been through this half a dozen times before,this will NOT apply to you filling up your boat with fresh drinking water .
You will be filling up your boat for the purposes of potable water and for hygiene and this is specifically allowed under the rulz and regs.
Ps we need more reserviors and similiar large volume water storage capacity now,so ignore the blimming NIMBYS and start damming those valleys now..

 

[MY littlebirchwoo]

The bit I read, and have copied, from the Anglian Water website says the ban includes
''Drawing water, using a hosepipe, for domestic recreational use''. The small word 'or' being significant.

So recreational use is banned (unless it is non domestic , ie part of the use of a business).

Filling a domestic water tank on a boat (or a caravan) is not recreational use. Surely it is normal domestic use which is not intended to be part of a hosepipe ban ?

I feel you have not explained the use of the tank water to the person at the water authority and you have been given the easy but incorrect answer. If you explain the water is for normal domestic activities such as personal hygene and cooking you will receive a different response.

Please do get back in touch with Anglian Water and report back.

Yes I noticed the wording on the Anglian Water website changed a short while after that quote was lifted! I am awaiting a response from their media centre today and will post up the full reply when I receive it verbatim!

 

[Poignard]

'Hosepipe Ban WILL Seriously Hurt Boaters'

I have a pressure washer that I intended to sell soon so it won't help me!

Still, if it saves the planet etc.

 

[Otter]

A weekend on a boat uses a fraction of the fresh water a weekend at home uses - sea water toilets.

 

[mlines]

It sounds like a Jobsworth to me.

Following the last time this happened I had a letter from Thames Water confirming what "recreational use" meant to them, its the polish and shine on the drive on a Sunday morning brigade. Therefore car washes, boat valets etc. are not affected at this time. The reason I wrote to them was because not pressure washing down one of my cars presented a conflict between a fine for using a hosepipe and a fine for depositing mud etc. on the highway. They confirmed that use for "health and safety" purposes was ok, this surely extends to filling drinking water tanks.