warrior40
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I have just had an astonishingly good quote from this company to build a suite of sails, does anyone have any experience of their sails, or know how well built they are?
Hongkong sails
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steve_cronin
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If they\'re as good as their suits....
(for the money) then Hong Kong sewing is to be recommended.
However, why support a communist regeime dedicated to overthrow our capitalist system.
There are just as many good ( &VFM) sailmakers in Europe.
Steve Cronin
(for the money) then Hong Kong sewing is to be recommended.
However, why support a communist regeime dedicated to overthrow our capitalist system.
There are just as many good ( &VFM) sailmakers in Europe.
Steve Cronin
warrior40
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Re: If they\'re as good as their suits....
fair comment
fair comment
Johnjo
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Bought a new main sail last year from Sobstad.
excellent quality and a very good price ,
mike
excellent quality and a very good price ,
mike
SimonJ
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Hong Kong Sails
Some thoughts:
Who will alter them if they are not right?
Who will valet them later in life?
How do do you they have used an appropriate cloth, the right size of sunresistant thread? Have you heard like me of well made good looking, Hong kong suits falling apart early in their life due to poor thread?!
Will the finish ie hand sewing, patch sizes, reinforcingt etc etc be of similar specification to local suppilers. If fully battened what quality of hardware will be supplied?
Of course you should ask these questions of all bottom end of the market sailmakers! The difficulty is knowing what IS right!!
Good luck.
Some thoughts:
Who will alter them if they are not right?
Who will valet them later in life?
How do do you they have used an appropriate cloth, the right size of sunresistant thread? Have you heard like me of well made good looking, Hong kong suits falling apart early in their life due to poor thread?!
Will the finish ie hand sewing, patch sizes, reinforcingt etc etc be of similar specification to local suppilers. If fully battened what quality of hardware will be supplied?
Of course you should ask these questions of all bottom end of the market sailmakers! The difficulty is knowing what IS right!!
Good luck.
30boat
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Re: If they\'re as good as their suits....
What a load of rubbish.I bet you've never lived in Hong Kong or else you wouldn't be saying things like that.They're not the comunist regime .They were there before the handover and they are just trying to make a living and just hapen to live there.Incidentaly all my sails were made in H.Kong(UK Sails) and bought and ordered there.Does that make me an anti capitalist?
What a load of rubbish.I bet you've never lived in Hong Kong or else you wouldn't be saying things like that.They're not the comunist regime .They were there before the handover and they are just trying to make a living and just hapen to live there.Incidentaly all my sails were made in H.Kong(UK Sails) and bought and ordered there.Does that make me an anti capitalist?
davidhand
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I have a Hong Kong sail in the boot of my car, I've never used it, it was given to me by a bloke who took it off a Choy Lee. It's about 20 years old (so it was built during the capalist period) and still has a fair amount of life in it. The guy gave it away because he had put on a roller furler and didn't want to change the hanks to luff tape.
BrianJ
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I suggest you get a quote from Rolly Tasker in Phuket.. They are good sails.
BrianJ
BrianJ
steve_cronin
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Re: If they\'re as good as their suits....
Why do I have to live there? You may not have noticed but China took over Hong Kong a few years back.
As to their suits (& their spectacles) these are readily available via mail order. I had a suit made once (15 years ago) that was of very good quality although I have to provide self measurements (to a provided sketch)
I only mentioned this because the company sent me a mailshot last week after all these years of not doing business with them.
Steve Cronin
Why do I have to live there? You may not have noticed but China took over Hong Kong a few years back.
As to their suits (& their spectacles) these are readily available via mail order. I had a suit made once (15 years ago) that was of very good quality although I have to provide self measurements (to a provided sketch)
I only mentioned this because the company sent me a mailshot last week after all these years of not doing business with them.
Steve Cronin
steve_cronin
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Re: Hong Kong Sails
Who was it who said:-
1. Cheap
2. Good Quality
3. Fast
You can have any two of the above but NEVER all three?
Steve Cronin
Who was it who said:-
1. Cheap
2. Good Quality
3. Fast
You can have any two of the above but NEVER all three?
Steve Cronin
PeterGibbs
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Re: Hong Kong Sails - the 3 graces!
Steve,
You can have all three, and it was said by none other than Jack Cohen. I refer you to TESCO in the belief that he was not kidding!
Peter Gibbs
Steve,
You can have all three, and it was said by none other than Jack Cohen. I refer you to TESCO in the belief that he was not kidding!
Peter Gibbs
steve_cronin
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Re: Hong Kong Sails - the 3 graces!
TESCO
I had lengthy correspondence with that company about their disposable barbecues which they said they were selling cheaper then than they were a year earlier. I pointed out that this was because the product was inferior in not having a second mesh under the charcoal thereby allowing the bottoms to burn through in any sort of breeze. They argued that black was white.
Tuesday this week in their Leicester store I was perusing their ("Which" recommended) own brand fizz and I reached for my (Tesco opticians) titanium framed eight month old reading glasses. I opened them and the bridge snapped clen in two. I marched off to the opticians dept. and presented them to an assistant who told me that she could do nothing but that the manager would ring me "tomorrow" (Weds). I've heard nothing to date.
So I refute your suggestion that "all three" CAN be had - well NOT at TESCO's anyway!
Steve Cronin
TESCO
I had lengthy correspondence with that company about their disposable barbecues which they said they were selling cheaper then than they were a year earlier. I pointed out that this was because the product was inferior in not having a second mesh under the charcoal thereby allowing the bottoms to burn through in any sort of breeze. They argued that black was white.
Tuesday this week in their Leicester store I was perusing their ("Which" recommended) own brand fizz and I reached for my (Tesco opticians) titanium framed eight month old reading glasses. I opened them and the bridge snapped clen in two. I marched off to the opticians dept. and presented them to an assistant who told me that she could do nothing but that the manager would ring me "tomorrow" (Weds). I've heard nothing to date.
So I refute your suggestion that "all three" CAN be had - well NOT at TESCO's anyway!
Steve Cronin
Mirelle
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As an ex-Hong Konger, may I proffer the odd fact?
Hong Kong has a large and very active yachting community, including very serious offshore racers. The South China Sea Race (HK- Manila) is the equivalent of the Fastnet or the Bermuda race and it is a geniune offshore race, not along a coastline.
It follows that Hong Kong has serious sailmakers.
Hong Kong being Hong Kong, the sailmakers first spotted an export market many years ago when Hong Kong builders were exporting yachts, but whilst labour costs put a stop to yacht building, sailmakers have continued to thrive.
Some of these firms are now very large; one of them supplies almost all the world's windsurfer sails, which again is not so very surprising when we recall that the Olympic windsurfing champion is from Hong Kong.
The cost of labour in Hong Kong is so high (well above Britain) that sails are very seldom made in Hong Kong; the Hong Kong sailmakers have their lofts (well, lets be honest, factories) across the border in Mainland China, along with the world;s toy makers, light fitting makers, etc etc.
The materials are what you will find anywhere else and are sourced and supplied internationally.
And, for Steve's benefit, after living for several years in Beijing, whilst I met many many members of the Communist Party of China, I did not meet one who was "dedicated to overthrowing our system". More than half China's GDP is produced by the private sector, and capitalists are welcome to join the Communist Party now....
Hong Kong has a large and very active yachting community, including very serious offshore racers. The South China Sea Race (HK- Manila) is the equivalent of the Fastnet or the Bermuda race and it is a geniune offshore race, not along a coastline.
It follows that Hong Kong has serious sailmakers.
Hong Kong being Hong Kong, the sailmakers first spotted an export market many years ago when Hong Kong builders were exporting yachts, but whilst labour costs put a stop to yacht building, sailmakers have continued to thrive.
Some of these firms are now very large; one of them supplies almost all the world's windsurfer sails, which again is not so very surprising when we recall that the Olympic windsurfing champion is from Hong Kong.
The cost of labour in Hong Kong is so high (well above Britain) that sails are very seldom made in Hong Kong; the Hong Kong sailmakers have their lofts (well, lets be honest, factories) across the border in Mainland China, along with the world;s toy makers, light fitting makers, etc etc.
The materials are what you will find anywhere else and are sourced and supplied internationally.
And, for Steve's benefit, after living for several years in Beijing, whilst I met many many members of the Communist Party of China, I did not meet one who was "dedicated to overthrowing our system". More than half China's GDP is produced by the private sector, and capitalists are welcome to join the Communist Party now....
