Help with Portsmouth Harbour incident

[rowanloh]

Hi All - I hope you can help - particularly those moored around the Portsmouth area. Last weekend Gosport Boat Yard rang me to say that a collision with my moored boat had been witnessed, from aboard the neighboring vessel, but the offending boat did not stop and no contact has been attempted since (that I am aware of at least).
The damage is slightly more than costmetic - to the tune of bent/broken stanchion/s and toe rail/s and fibreglass damage. I would have thought that it was sufficient damage to warrant the offending vessel at least making an attempt at contact. The name of offending boat was SERENE FAIR, a black hulled circa 27ft vessel (similar to a T27). The boat was motoring further up harbour. Port Solent, Portsmouth Marine, Wicor Marine and Trafalgar (chandlers) have been contacted but no one knows of this boat. I am not prejudging anything and appreciate that the other vessel may have been attempting to report the incident or make contact.
I would be grateful for any information about the location/ownership of this boat or advice on who else to contact re enquiries. PMs welcome. Many thanks.

 

[Babylon]

Really sorry to hear about that.

Some lines of enquiry you might follow:

Contact the main marina groups, they may be able to easily search their databases, either for the boat as a resident or as a visitor?

Part 1 or SSR registered? Contact the registery in Swansea.

Insurance company databases? (Your own insurers might be able to do this?)

Just a simple Google search? (Edit: scotch this route - it just brings up rubbish)

The T27 owner's association? (What exactly is a T27?)

 

[rowanloh]

Thanks. I am not sure what a T27 is - it was reported to me as that. I believe it is a Thompson T27. I will see if there is a member association.
There are some pics of a T27 here: http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89285
- but I am not at all sure that the boat is a T27 it was described as 'similar to a T27'. I think the name / colour of the boat is the best identifier in this instance.

 

[Seajet]

rowanloh,

I really hope you get this sorted satisfactorily; check sailing clubs like Hardway as well.

Years ago a boat made off with my anchor warp, but a little determination and a helpful sailing club secretary got him !

It might pay you to say something like 'Searching 4 yacht Serene Fair, black hull Portsmouth' in a thread title to grab peoples' attention without having to click on the thread.

Good luck.

 

[Appledore]

Perhaps there's a chance the boat is registered with the Coastguard under the CG66 scheme? You might be lucky with Solent, or others?

Hope you find the 'culprit'.

 

[onesea]

Not the most honer-able way forward but... ask about the boat but do not mention why...

Initial enquiries I would make without mentioning why. Only bring the reason up once they said they did not know the boat...

Personally I would take the scenic route to and from my boat checking for damage on other local boats particularly black ones regardless of the name.

Also think on any miss readings or spellings that might of happened?

Not really much help my thoughts are with you, you will for ever be hunting black boats looking for evidence .

 

[sarabande]

"serene fair" doesn't sound right to me, sorry but...


Serene Affair ?
Serena Fair ?

 

[Pete7]

A dark hulled 26ft yacht called Serene did £6500 worth of damage to my rib in July 2003 whilst I was tied up to the fuel pontoon in Gosport. I thought the yacht was a contessa 26, but can't be certain. However, it was an older British design.

Has QHM been informed and could the MOD Police help keep a look out for her.

Pete

 

[rowanloh]

A possibility is a boat named Selene Fair and may still be around the Solent?

 

[Seajet]

Serene Fair is an old poem.

I would keep the reason for enquiry quiet too, make out you're an old friend or something ?

 

[lenseman]

. . . . . The name of offending boat was SERENE FAIR, a black hulled circa 27ft vessel (similar to a T27). . . . . .

When the witnesses reported it, they might have been foreign or said the name of the yacht as "SERENE" of "FAREHAM" but somehow the words got misreported?

Plenty of vessels called "Serene" on the ITU database.

 

[P4Paul]

PM sent to the OP

 

[A1Sailor]

A possibility is a boat named Selene Fair and may still be around the Solent?

A dark hulled Van de Stadt Trintel 1 named Selene Fair was sold by Preston Marina. See:
http://www.prestonmarina.co.uk/brokerage_pages/boats/Selene Fair 2011.html

 

[lenseman]

Hi All - I hope you can help . . . . .

PM sent.

 

[Seajet]

A1Sailor,

that's got to be worth attention, well done !

 

[A1Sailor]

A1Sailor,

that's got to be worth attention, well done !

It wisnae me - it wis Mr Google.

 

[Seajet]

It wisnae me - it wis Mr Google.

maybe, but I tried googling 'Serene Fair' and got zero except poems and a French racehorse !

 

[taz]

http://www.prestonmarina.co.uk/brokerage_pages/boats/Selene Fair 2011.html

A1Sailor,

that's got to be worth attention, well done !

Isn't Nathan(lee) at preston marina? He may be able to say if the yacht is still there or ask who/where they sold it to?

If it is the same boat, obviously.

 

[rowanloh]

I think that Selene Fair fits the description - I had googled it as advised (thanks A1) and seen the Preston brokerage site. I also believe that this boat was around in the Solent for the RTI Race and so maybe still around. I have some very good leads now (thanks mostly to an inspirational PM) so thanks to all for a great nights work. Some subtle phonecalls for the morning me thinks!

 

[lenseman]

I have owners name and address, his job. sail number, when it was sold and a couple of other bits of info, etc etc.