Help - What should I buy - replies

[hlb]

There have been many threads here on the subjects of petrol V diesel and out drives.

To summarise:

The vast majority of marinas or harbours do not stock petrol.
You are therefore faced with the challenging task of taking a wheel barrow or other usefull devise to the nearest filling station, which could well be some miles away.(The car having been deposited at your home port).

Your next task of course being to transport 100 or maybe 200 gallons of petrol back to your boat.
Lets say our wheel barrow can transport 10 gallon at a time, maybe 20 if your fit enough and the garage is not too far away.

Given that your boat is going to average between half and one mile to the gallon and the petrol stations average (I'll let you decide) miles from the sea.
Your wheel barrow is going to do more mileage than yer bloody boat.
Course in this senario out drives would be usefull cos you could then beach the boat in the proximity of a garage, course you'll then have 12 hours to wait for the tide comming back, but what the hell you've saved money on the boat!!

Haydn<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by kimhollamby on Sat Oct 27 16:59:46 2001 (server time).</FONT></P>

 

[ari]

Re: Help - What should I buy

If I didn't know better I'd say that Hayden really wasn't that keen on petrol boats....!!

I would have thought being based in the Channel Islands where petrol is cheap(er) a petrol boat would make a degree of sense.

I guess it depends what you want to spend on it. You'll get a nice four berth five year old 27ft SeaRay with twin petrols for less than £40,000 but you won't get much with diesels in for that unless you go an awful lot older.

If you are spending double that on the other hand then you are into something like a recent Sealine of a similar size with a pair of diesels. You pays your money and you takes your choice.

I used to run a twin petrol boat and never had a problem with obtaining the stuff (I'm based in Devon) but it is a valid point. You might want to check the harbours in your locality.

At the end of the day you'll get a better/newer/bigger (delete as appropriate) boat for the same money opting for petrol over diesel, but it'll cost a bit more to run, thats why its cheaper.

(Sea)horses for courses.

Ari.

 

[byron]

Re: Help - What should I buy

Think you have missed Haydn's point Ari. His point is that having a petrol boat isn't just costly it is inconvenient.

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[ari]

Re: Help - What should I buy

I quote:-

"I used to run a twin petrol boat and never had a problem with obtaining the stuff (I'm based in Devon) but it is a valid point. You might want to check the harbours in your locality."

If he can get the stuff then no problem!

Ari

 

[byron]

Re: Help - What should I buy

On the Thames there are very few yards that now stock petrol. Possibly only three along the whole length.

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[ari]

Re: Help - What should I buy

Thats a bit of a b****r really as I would have imagined that a petrol boats biggest downside (ie high cost at planing speeds) is negated on the river at five knots and the lower noise levels and less exhaust smoke would be a positive bonus.

I'd rather assumed that a lot of the petrol boats that used to be on the south coast and seem to have been priced out cos of running costs had ended up on the Thames or similar, I guess not from what you say.

I wonder where they go then? There used to be loads of Princess 266/286's, Targa 27's and similar with big V6 or V8 petrol engines down here but very few left.

Ari.

 

[hlb]

Re: Help - What should I buy

But read what the guy is saying.
He wants to go to France for a few days or more.
The waters round there arnt exactly friendly, so its not a good place to sail around in a bath tub, theres four of them, so he needs a bigish boat. He also needs range, if for no other reason than buying the juice in Jersey and not france.
Petrol is four times as dear as diesel here in the UK but also the range on diesel is much more.
If I sound a bit over the top, its just cos I cant stand the thought of him bashing through the Alderney Races and shouting at th-wife to pass another bucket of petrol to slosh into the tank.
I've been there and got the tee shirt.
5 litre V8 and twenty gallon fuel tank.
But that was when petrol was cheap.(ish)

Haydn

 

[hlb]

Re: Help Kim!!

How the hell have I started a new thread and who wrote in the word replie's in the heading??

Haydn

 

[BarryD]

Ignore some members of this forum for a start...

MFC1955 - Buy what you want to buy, buy what you can afford and treat all replies as valuable but remeber the pinch of salt! Apply this rule to all answers including mine. This is a great place to come and ask questions once you've got a boat.

OK my story (and recomendation) a couple of months or so ago I approached this forum with the same question as you and found basically that unless you want to spend £40K + and go for a twin diesel then to a fair number of "members" you' re not worthy of playing. Horrrors a cheap "Binliner" petrol boat chap must be a bounder. As a shock to the forum they are still building and selling new 5.0L V8 single engined petrol boats, they are safe and someone is buying them.

Like you this will be our first boat, and for ourselves we haven't really a clue about boating or what aspects we will like and what we will hate. So we've gone for a cheap minimum investment level ten year old v8 5.7 petrol Rinker Fiesta Vee. It's 4 berths, has a nice light mid cabin and will do the job well. Assuming that we don't bend it, sink it or wreck it, then in two years time (or less) we can sell it for just about what we paid as at 10 years old it's done its depreciating, and petrol will either go up or down in price but then so what. As a component of the running cost its quite minor.

Sure don't buy a petrol boat and then home marina somewhere where there is no petrol! Most of the class of boats have 70 / 100 gallon tanks - cost a lot to fill but how often are you going to empty them once a month - 10 gph rate at a fast cruise of 25kts gives you an easy 150 mile range (out and then back). And thats a long time bouncing around the boat - you'll be bored first.

OK I've bought petrol and perhaps I'm trying to justify that.

In the end, buy what you like, and what you can afford to run. Unless you are really smart then what ever you buy will not be right for you after a year or so use. Remember what you buy will need to be sold - so don't pay top money, if you bought it someone else will in the future.

In the end it's not about petrol or diesel, twins or singles, it's about being afloat, getting your feet wet, having fun and enjoying life.

Barry D.

 

[kimhollamby]

Re: Help Kim!!

You didn't and I did...in that order.

Private message in your inbox explains.

 

[Guest]

Gaoowrn H lets all see

Kim's reply. Have you got the ba**s to post it?

 

[hlb]

Re: Gaoowrn H lets all see

Sorry Colin the gistapo has spoken and I must lay down and say three Hail Marys for my crimes.
Petrols lovely stuff much better than dirty diesely thingys and quite cheap really.

Haydn

 

[kimhollamby]

Re: Gaoowrn H lets all see

Get orfff...my mild intervention nothing to do with your views, just the way in which they kicked off

 

[longjohnsilver]

Dedication ........or boredom?

Now which is it Kim, working at this time on a Saturday night? Don't IPC give you any time off????????

 

[DepSol]

Re: Dedication ........or boredom?

MFC 1955

Go to user options and check your post.

Donkey