Help! Roller Furling Line not Man Enough?

Unless the block is something special, and I can't see why, a block from a boat jumle would be fine, as long as it turns freely. However, if the line rubs on the edge of the furler drum, I'd look at the run, and see if it can be modified to come in at a better angle. Mine likes to be perpendicular to the axis of the drum.
 
thanks Stemar. The line looks pretty good. It is one that can self adjust the angle I just think it has filled up with salt so hasnt been turning and flat spotted the wheel.
 
Good morning sailors. Furling line now replaced with some proper 6mm from the marina shop. On closer inspection the old line appears to have chaffed on the edge of the roller drum. The drum does not have any sharp edges just thin metal, I think the angle the furling line was at when reefed must must have caused it to wear through.

I have also noticed that the last block on the pulpit is acting as a slide rather than rolling and has worn down to the pulley axle. Is it possible to buy replacement wheels rather than replace the whole thing?

Thanks for all your comments.
Sort out the alignment of rope on to furling drum so that it is central even when reefed. I suspect that it is cheaper to replace the ast block if it is the type that clamps to the pulpit. On my boat the furler turning blocks were roller race type to remove friction.
My furling line lasts about 15 years but I do remove it every winter.
 
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I just think it has filled up with salt so hasnt been turning and flat spotted the wheel.

That wheel is called a sheave.
Your problem (non rotating sheaves) is pretty common.
Age , wear, misalignment, etc causes this.
You can buy replacement sheaves at almost any size ( quality and price).
Take measurements of your sheave and go on line to search.
Not too expensive!!
https://www.deckhardware.com.au/she...FTCqbIv2kYOLY6MxlmJZcas1NoZH22xa9ru7CVEqYSmHb

gary
 
I have shop bought furler guide blacks on the stanchions - but every so often the block part comes away from the stanchion part ... its just a 'friction' grooved connection ... one day I will drill and put a screw through.
But at pulpit end on the Plastimo furler (25 ft motor sailer) - I have a small flag halyard block via small shackle to a clamp on the stanchion ... why ? this then allows the furling line to rise / fall as needed when in use ... it gives that few extra cms of movement.

"Sort out the alignment of rope on to furling drum so that it is central even when reefed." .. bit confused there .. surely the drum doesn't change its position in relation to the furling line blocks ? Once mid height of the line-drum - it should always be -= other than the rise and fall of turns laid onto drum ?
 
Re:
I just think it has filled up with salt so hasnt been turning and flat spotted the wheel.

That wheel is called a sheave.
Your problem (non rotating sheaves) is pretty common.
Age , wear, misalignment, etc causes this.
You can buy replacement sheaves at almost any size ( quality and price).
Take measurements of your sheave and go on line to search.
Not too expensive!!
https://www.deckhardware.com.au/she...FTCqbIv2kYOLY6MxlmJZcas1NoZH22xa9ru7CVEqYSmHb

gary

When mine wear out - if they do - I will not replace with same ... I will use small flag halyard blocks instead ...
 
I agree polypropylene should never be used for rigging. IMO it's only use is towing a dinghy where a floating line will minimise tangles round the prop!
You’ll lose the dinghy that way. Floating line is available from Marlow made of Dyneema that will last more than a couple of years in the sun. As others have said, polyprop shouldn’t be near a boat and probably shouldn’t be near anything else either other than maybe cable pulls in dark conduits.
 
You’ll lose the dinghy that way. Floating line is available from Marlow made of Dyneema that will last more than a couple of years in the sun. As others have said, polyprop shouldn’t be near a boat and probably shouldn’t be near anything else either other than maybe cable pulls in dark conduits.
I used to work on a fish farm and we used nothing except polyprop. Awful stuff. It sheds micro plastics due to the UV damage. But it's cheap, easy to splice, and in larger sizes it's pretty strong. The thin stuff loses all strength because the outer layer crumbles in the sunlight.
 
You’ll lose the dinghy that way. Floating line is available from Marlow made of Dyneema that will last more than a couple of years in the sun. As others have said, polyprop shouldn’t be near a boat and probably shouldn’t be near anything else either other than maybe cable pulls in dark conduits.

I don't know how many are aware - but Polyprop has been a common form of ships mooring lines !

When extra strength is needed such as towing / high stress - a steel core or other material can be used ... but outer still Polyprop.
 
I don't know how many are aware - but Polyprop has been a common form of ships mooring lines !

When extra strength is needed such as towing / high stress - a steel core or other material can be used ... but outer still Polyprop.
And there are different grades. Split film is cheap and nasty and has no place on a boat. Seasteel is good though. I used a single seasteel strop to moor my boat for many years.
 
And there are different grades. Split film is cheap and nasty and has no place on a boat. Seasteel is good though. I used a single seasteel strop to moor my boat for many years.

Yes ... ships lines are spiral wound thread and braided ...

I actually use 'yellow' DIY shop spiral wound '3 stranded' polyprop to secure my home pontoons to the bank. Its cheap and I replace once I start to find any 'yellow' dust ... which is about 5yrs or so. But I would never use on board the boat !!

Split film is devils stuff ... totally useless.
 
For my dinghy I use Marlow polypropylene 3 strand rope which does float. 12mm from memory and lasts several years. I replaced it last year as it was getting a bit frayed. Considerably better than the blue split film cheap polypropylene.
 
Unfortunate thread revival. My new 6mm marlow snapped in a F5 yesterday. Going to try 8mm and washing and lubricating the last sheave. At least I am getting good practice at and rigging a temporary line to partially furl and the driving round in circles whilst I wrap the remaining geona!
 
Unfortunate thread revival. My new 6mm marlow snapped in a F5 yesterday. Going to try 8mm and washing and lubricating the last sheave. At least I am getting good practice at and rigging a temporary line to partially furl and the driving round in circles whilst I wrap the remaining geona!
Sounds like you have a disgruntled neighbour with a knife in your marina.
 
Unfortunate thread revival. My new 6mm marlow snapped in a F5 yesterday. Going to try 8mm and washing and lubricating the last sheave. At least I am getting good practice at and rigging a temporary line to partially furl and the driving round in circles whilst I wrap the remaining geona!
6mm Marlow has over a tonne breaking load. There has to be something in your furling set up that is causing the line to weaken and snap.

You need to have a good look at it as 8mm will go the same way.
 
Unfortunate thread revival. My new 6mm marlow snapped in a F5 yesterday. Going to try 8mm and washing and lubricating the last sheave. At least I am getting good practice at and rigging a temporary line to partially furl and the driving round in circles whilst I wrap the remaining geona!
Crikey. Worn out in two months. Just out of interest, is the foil section (that sail luff slots into) turning freely? You want as little friction as possible. Ideally it should be easy to rotate fully furled sail around forestay by hand.
 
Used to have a Dehler 36CWS---headsail furler was a pig to operate until I found that slackening off the backstay tensioner made things so much easier by releasing the tension on the forestay.
 
It furls really easy, the line snapped/rubbed through whilst sailing with 2/3 genoa locked out. I have now replaced with 8mm, freed off the front sheave and replaced the roller which had a big groove in it so clearly not running smoothly. It was also very stiff in the ball joint for up and down movement. Will have to monitor it more closely. I was watching my temporary repair (outside of the sheaves) yesterday and there was no sawing movement in the furling line so I am surprised it would rub through after one sail.

Could there be more than 1ton load on the furling line? (37ft AWB)

thanks for your help everyone
 
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