Headlining Adhesive

[wyattnorm]

The adhesive holding up the headlining in various parts of my boat is giving up the ghost and I now have to get some glue into some tight spaces. Am I right in thinking that there is a spray adhesive available? Lining on the wall will be easy as I can get my hand inside, but overhead not so easy.

 

[PBooth]

Hi, I have just replaced my headlinings. I used 'webtack' spray adhesive from Hawke House Marine, it's not cheap but very good and is resistant to high temperatures.

Peter

 

[VicS]

As PBooth says you can get a spray adhesive from Hawke House but you will find that the foam backiing is deteriorating to a dirty coloured dust and any attempts to stick the existing stuff back will be somewhere between unsatisfactory and a total failure. Once it starts to go there is only one answer, namely total renewal.

On the fibre glass surfaces HH recommend an impact adhesive on the fibreglass and the spray adhesive on the vinyl backing. On plywood panels they recommend a water resistant PVA wood glue. That is easier to use and being solvent free less hazardous as well.

The subject appears on here regularly so you should be able to find loads to read via the search function. Since Hawke House is always mentioned searching for them should find it all. Searching using Google for "Hawke House" + YBW will probably work better than the internal search function.

 

[ColinHuggins]

Vic's right, have just tackled the foc'sle and ended up pulling everything off.

First you have to clean old glue off the hull interior. White spirit was suggested but completely ineffective so resorted to International thinners. Wow, wotta high! Came out and nearly fell off the pontoon!

That left a suitable starting point for carpetting new areas using an aerosol adhesive, easy peasy.(If you want the name PM me - the can is on the boat.) Then glued back old vinyl after the powdered remains of sponge backing had been removed by hard brushing; this time contact adhesive worked well.

Refurbished some harboard panels, and made new where bulkhead alterations dictated, using - the old vinyl which had been replaced by carpet. Not very elegant but it does all match!

You'll get a buzz when it's done - and a few on the way!

(The Show Home is available for viewing at Hayling Yot Co.)

 

[VicS]

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Wow, wotta high!

[/ QUOTE ] If you are using any solvents including white spirit or solvent based adhesives good ventilation, and I mean forced through with the aid of a fan unless you can work with both hatches open on a windy days is absolutely vital and so is an "Organic vapours" mask.

It is not a joke the vapours from some of these solvents are very dangerous. Spend to long in there without a mask or with poor ventilation and you may not come out again. Even if you do it may be years later that organ failure catches up with you and that is neither "a high" nor a "buzz".

As far as cleaning off the old adhesive goes I scraped off what I could but found that power driven wirebrushes etc simply softened the remanider and spread it out. Eventually I gave up on the basis that what I could not remove with reasonable effort could stay there.

On wooden panels water resistant PVA wood glue can be used. Easy and safe to use comprared to solvent based impact adhesives.

The mask is excellent and can be obtained along with the adhesive from suppliers such as Hawke House but it only protects you to a certain level so is not a substitute for ventillation.

 

[gandy]

We used water-based contact adhesive from Hawke House. Fumes aren't a problem, but the stuff is very slow to use. Once applied you need to wait until all the water has evaporated and the milky coating turns clear, before offering up the covering. We also found it needed to be applied to both surfaces.

 

[oldharry]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Wow, wotta high!

[/ QUOTE ] If you are using any solvents including white spirit or solvent based adhesives good ventilation, and I mean forced through with the aid of a fan unless you can work with both hatches open on a windy days is absolutely vital and so is an "Organic vapours" mask.

It is not a joke the vapours from some of these solvents are very dangerous.


[/ QUOTE ]

ABsolutely right VicS: there was a very sad post a few years ago from a regular who had used one of the solvent based glues inside his boat: IIRC it was Thixofix. thankfully somebody spotted him and dragged him out in time, but he had subsequently suffered severe ongoing respiratory problems, and almost complete kidney failure. The solvents (toluene based) had completely wrecked his health and his life, and nearly killed him.

The problem is apprantly many of them have an anaesthetic effect, so that by the time you realise something is wrong, it is too late to save yourself - a bit like Carbon Monoxide poisoning.

 

[wyattnorm]

Many thanks...plenty of info to keep me going.

 

[Talbot]

I was unhappy with the maximum temperature capability of the adhesives available from Hawke House, as at that time I planned to travel to much hotter climes. I managed to get some car headlining adhesive which has a much higher point before it starts to become liquid again. It was also much more expensive.

In order to ease the problem of re-doing my headlining, and speed up the installation, I removed all my windows and subsequently re-sealed them (needed doing anyway), this also helped the ventilation requirement.