Troutbridge
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Yeah, go for slow speed 'crashes', much less damage & don't try to fight the boat, work with what it wants to do.
Having teething problems-- any plymouth expereinced mentors?
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somerset
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I really agree with the posters who have recommended practicing in open water with a mooring buoy as a reference point.The marina you are in can be very taxing at springs.Try leaving at slack water and dinking round to Fowey where there are loads of swinging moorings to pick up and stay for a few days.Then you can come and go as you please as often as you want.Within the harbour there are pontoons and buoys etc to practice close quarters handling.So you can practice all day in almost any conditions and not have to worry about getting back into Mayflower for the night.There is a reasonable tide throught the harbour so it will help with your Plymouth problems.Best of luck.We have all been there. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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One other point....it is not always physically possible to go where you want to go under your own power! You might need a yard boat to help or - worth considering - work out a plan that involves getting a line onto another pontoon, then fall back on that, paying it out, hauling or just as a safety line. I once did that getting out of a berth in Brixham (or 'Brixton' as several yachties kept calling the local MRCC, to their evident irritation) in some really horrid weather. Just remember that it isn't necessarily possible so don't even attempt it! That's where experience comes in - there is no other way.
Edit: I've just remembered that I once lost a decent dock line like that in Sutton Harbour Marina (one of the nicest marinas anywhere)....the fellow was supposed to throw the line back to me but didn't. I was a bit miffed, it was a decent line, as-new.
Edit: I've just remembered that I once lost a decent dock line like that in Sutton Harbour Marina (one of the nicest marinas anywhere)....the fellow was supposed to throw the line back to me but didn't. I was a bit miffed, it was a decent line, as-new.
KellysEye
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>I shall wait till nearer neaps, put on the hydrovane blade and steel myself to have another go...
We also found that the Hydrovane cut down prop walk astern. However, fairly obviously, we also found that it increased the turning circle considerably. Eventually we decided that the rudder was a hindrance not a help but that was after we had mastered using the prop walk to our advantage.
We also found that the Hydrovane cut down prop walk astern. However, fairly obviously, we also found that it increased the turning circle considerably. Eventually we decided that the rudder was a hindrance not a help but that was after we had mastered using the prop walk to our advantage.
Bilgediver
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I enlisted an experienced (read racing, fastnet/transat etc) sailing friend to give me some tuition on close quarters handling.
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Fascadale
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Hi
Agree with all the above
In a really tight situation, wind and tide all wrong, I have (twice) run a warp from the stern across the "marina aisle" round a cleet on an opposite pontoon and back to the boat.
Keep the warp tight and it will stop your stern being blown about, reverse off pontoon, pull in warp when ready.
All a bit tense really, there's alot to go wrong, warp jams, warp round prop.
Sometimes wiser to delay departure
Bowman 40, beautiful boat, great choice even if she a bit awkward in a marina in the early days, just dream of sailing the seven seas
Good luck
Agree with all the above
In a really tight situation, wind and tide all wrong, I have (twice) run a warp from the stern across the "marina aisle" round a cleet on an opposite pontoon and back to the boat.
Keep the warp tight and it will stop your stern being blown about, reverse off pontoon, pull in warp when ready.
All a bit tense really, there's alot to go wrong, warp jams, warp round prop.
Sometimes wiser to delay departure
Bowman 40, beautiful boat, great choice even if she a bit awkward in a marina in the early days, just dream of sailing the seven seas
Good luck
LadyJessie
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Carol, don't worry. We have all been there. The only solution is practice, and practice, and practice. There will come a time that you will be able to get your boat into that tight 90 degree angle mooring space in a crosswind. Every boat is different in handling, you just have to learn yours and it takes time and practice. However, it sounds like you are on the right learning path. Fair winds.
captainslarty
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Hi Carol
Hope you are on the mend.. well done on the first attempts at handling a 'real' boat /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Yes, again, go for the open water - we spent most of the time getting used to 'Ruddles' foibles on the moored pontoon on the Fal river.. spend a few days just bumping and grinding in differing conditions.. tis often the only way.. each boat has its own characteristics, even two of the same make model can handle in different ways.. it will come, just practice practice.
It WILL come.. and you have a beautiful choice of boat.
One of the hardest things to grasp for me was the effect of windage on the pilothouse.. as someone else mentioned, a ketch is great as you can sometimes use the Mizzen to help.. I once tried to turn around in the narrow space between sides of the Moulin Blanc Marina in Brest in a force 6.. Nearly thought of selling the boat lol.. then we hauled the mizz up, caught the wind and around she went, sweet as a nut.
Wait till you are safely anchored and drinking a nice cuppa or otherwise, and watch the AWB's dancing and leaping around whilst your real boat sits happily to anchor and offers a comfortable platform..
Joe n Jayne
Hope you are on the mend.. well done on the first attempts at handling a 'real' boat /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Yes, again, go for the open water - we spent most of the time getting used to 'Ruddles' foibles on the moored pontoon on the Fal river.. spend a few days just bumping and grinding in differing conditions.. tis often the only way.. each boat has its own characteristics, even two of the same make model can handle in different ways.. it will come, just practice practice.
It WILL come.. and you have a beautiful choice of boat.
One of the hardest things to grasp for me was the effect of windage on the pilothouse.. as someone else mentioned, a ketch is great as you can sometimes use the Mizzen to help.. I once tried to turn around in the narrow space between sides of the Moulin Blanc Marina in Brest in a force 6.. Nearly thought of selling the boat lol.. then we hauled the mizz up, caught the wind and around she went, sweet as a nut.
Wait till you are safely anchored and drinking a nice cuppa or otherwise, and watch the AWB's dancing and leaping around whilst your real boat sits happily to anchor and offers a comfortable platform..
Joe n Jayne
