Poignard
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Like a different world
Has the quality of those out sailing dropped to marine equivalent of camper van sailors
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Wansworth
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What’s not to like?
Wansworth
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Maybe I have it wrong a sort of snobbery,if you didnt come into yachting wadeing in mud,cold and wet your notaproper yachtsman ?
dunedin
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Nip over to the mobo forum, where some seem to think 60 feet is too small for a couple of people to stay on board for more than a few days. And air conditioning apparently left running even when not on board.
chrishscorp
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Nip over to the mobo forum, where some seem to think 60 feet is too small for a couple of people to stay on board for more than a few days. And air conditioning apparently left running even when not on board.
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Concerto
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You forgot only getting water from a tap at the top of the hard, so you only collected water at high tide to save walking down the long concrete hard. Usually involved 4 trips to fill the tank. Been there in the past.
Bajansailor
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Nip over to the mobo forum, where some seem to think 60 feet is too small for a couple of people to stay on board for more than a few days. And air conditioning apparently left running even when not on board.
I have noticed that many of the larger yachts with permanent berths in Port St Charles marina here keep their air conditioning systems running 24/7.
Although there is an additional cost re the electricity used, it is worth it in the long run as they can keep the internal humidity and temperature under control, and not have to worry about mould and condensation.
I think the electronics all like it as well.
Port St Charles
ryanroberts
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It's not proper boating unless you get woken up with condensation dripping on your face from a hatch in December
Beelzebub
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Even better when you slide open the hatch to be greeted by a faceful of snow cascading into the cabin.
Poignard
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It's not proper boating unless you get out of your bunk in the morning and find yourself standing in water up to your ankles.
johnalison
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Or having a petrol engine and having to walk a mile or two carrying a full can of fuel from the nearest garage while having to encourage one’s young ones to keep going by bribing them with the promise of an ice cream.
Biggles Wader
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Luxury!
When I were a lad winches were for posh blokes. We 'ad to sweat sheets in wid rope stoppers and be grateful if the helm gave us a luff.
When I were a lad winches were for posh blokes. We 'ad to sweat sheets in wid rope stoppers and be grateful if the helm gave us a luff.
Stemar
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Even better when you slide open the hatch to be greeted by a faceful of snow cascading into the cabin.
Delighted not to be a proper sailor
However incompetence isn't only limited to inhabitants of our former colonies. I've just had a gazillion emails from KHM updating long term notices, and noticed this:
1. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN by the King's Harbour Master Portsmouth that the Motor Tanker CUMBRIAN FISHER (or another similar vessel as required) will be berthed at the Oil Fuel Jetty for periods as required for operational reasons.
2. The Oil Fuel Jetty (OFJ) is comprised of four mooring dolphins and a short facing of jetty. CUMBRIAN FISHER’s bow and stern mooring lines are passed to the mooring dolphins. When practical, a line with conspicuous markers will also be run between the ship and mooring dolphin to improve visibility of these mooring lines.
3. Following a series of incidents in which yachts have damaged themselves on CUMBRIAN FISHER’s lines, mariners are cautioned to avoid passing between the main part of OFJ and the No 2 Dolphin when a vessel is berthed on OFJ. Mariners should use the approach channel to and from Gosport Marina that passes to the west of No1 and 2 Dolphins.
I suppose that when you're tired and it's dark, it could be possible not to see the lines in question, but they're not on any logical route except from up the harbour towards the fuel pontoon.
Skylark
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What’s not to like? Give me comfort over purgatory any day. The MAB equivalent must surely be the leaky tent, wet, cold, smells of damp and mould. Disturb your partner due to the cramped interior and bang your head on the frame as you get up in the night to go outside to urinate or defecate into the bucket. Morning cuppa brewed using the Primus stove with the added aroma of burning paraffin. Not for me, thank you. Stereotypes, eh ?
Wansworth
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Its
nice when it stops………even so many memories of happy times are spiced with struggle?
Zing
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The story of my life. You can't go scuba diving in icy waters unless you do it in a wet suit because dry suits are for experts. You can't fly a glider unless you spend years training in a glider that makes you struggle to stay airborne. You can't ride a proper motorcycle unless you have spent years riding and learning on a rubbish one. It's a sort of inverted snobbery mixed with a sadistic power play. Whatever it is, it is mean and not nice.
Sandy
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To answer your original question, I think not. What has changed is the reporting of incidents in the media/social media over the last 20 years. In other words everybody sees your cock ups.
chrishscorp
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Delighted not to be a proper sailor
However incompetence isn't only limited to inhabitants of our former colonies. I've just had a gazillion emails from KHM updating long term notices, and noticed this:
1. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN by the King's Harbour Master Portsmouth that the Motor Tanker CUMBRIAN FISHER (or another similar vessel as required) will be berthed at the Oil Fuel Jetty for periods as required for operational reasons.
2. The Oil Fuel Jetty (OFJ) is comprised of four mooring dolphins and a short facing of jetty. CUMBRIAN FISHER’s bow and stern mooring lines are passed to the mooring dolphins. When practical, a line with conspicuous markers will also be run between the ship and mooring dolphin to improve visibility of these mooring lines.
3. Following a series of incidents in which yachts have damaged themselves on CUMBRIAN FISHER’s lines, mariners are cautioned to avoid passing between the main part of OFJ and the No 2 Dolphin when a vessel is berthed on OFJ. Mariners should use the approach channel to and from Gosport Marina that passes to the west of No1 and 2 Dolphins.
I suppose that when you're tired and it's dark, it could be possible not to see the lines in question, but they're not on any logical route except from up the harbour towards the fuel pontoon.
Yes I eventually read my way through all of them......zzzzz zzzzzz zzzzz
Those dolphins couldnt really be any where else really, the lines are better marked than they used to be but in the dark it would be very easy to run into them, visitors at high risk though they are not going to wade through LNTM.... on a good tide its only the platforms that are visible above the water so very low in the water and not easy to spot.
johnalison
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It is only inverted snobs who see snobbery where it doesn't exist. There are many activities wherein it helps to get a grasp of the essentials by taking part in a simplified or basic form. In case of emergency I would rather be flown by a pilot who learned on a Tiger Moth than one whose only experience was in jets and simulators.
Zing
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Now that is a exemplary straw man argument.