Mariner69
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Rather 2100 local time.
Has a forumite left their red duster up?
- Thread starter burgundyben
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Rather 2100 local time.
superheat6k
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Unless you are at sea, when it should stay up all the time. Now I guess I have lined myself up for glass house position, as I am not so hot on the evening colours, and I'll be beggered if Im getting up at 8am on a Sunday just to put the ensign up.
But then very very few follow the strict protocol with the ensign when aboard - its just bad show to leave it when the boat isn't 'in commission'.
lisilou
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burgundyben
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YES!!! Ha! So I shall leave it flying...yes??
L
No.
oGaryo
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YES!!! Ha! So I shall leave it flying...yes??
L
Yes
Floating Preferably
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Right...I've had a serious word with myself and I shall be taking steps to rectify my frankly appalling mindset on this matter!
Tee Hee, do it with a large glass of wine, then you can toast yourself for having such a fun bunch of friends!:encouragement:
grumpy_o_g
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It's all very straight forward. I have even given QR's for Morning Colours without a guard or band present but I'm sure the circumstance would never actually arise in practice. I honestly cannot believe this is not included in the RYA Day Skipper syllabus.
In the morning:
Time of Morning and Evening Colours
QRRN 9136 refers. Her Majesty's ships, when lying in home ports and roads, are
to hoist their colours at 0800 from 15 February to 31 October inclusive, and at 0900 from
1 November to 14 February inclusive, but when abroad, at 0800 or 0900 as the
Commander-in-Chief shall direct, and they shall be worn if the weather permits or unless
the senior officer present sees objection thereto or directs otherwise, throughout the day
until sunset, when they are to be hauled down. Evening Colours are to be carried out at
sunset or at 2100 when actual sunset is after that time.
Preparations for Morning Colours
a. Colours party personnel should be nominated and individual duties specified
as a matter of normal daily harbour routine. The Duty Senior Communications
Rating (DSCR) should muster and brief his party as to their duties.
b. By thirty minutes prior to the ceremony all arrangements should be completed,
i.e.,
(1) Colour Party mustered and detailed.
(2) Halyards and clips checked.
(3) Ensign and Union Flag Checked and bent on.
(4) Preparative pennant bent on.
(5) Time check carried out.
c. At 15 minutes prior to the ceremony, the DSCR is to report to the Officer of the
Day (OOD) that the Colour Party and all preparations are correct; he should also
report which ship or shore station is controlling the ceremony (for the purpose of
these instructions known as the Controlling Authority).
d. At 10 minutes prior to the Ceremony:
(1) The OOD is to report to the Captain ‘10 minutes to Colours’.
(2) Colour Party close up in their positions (earlier if Guard/Band are
present).
Morning Colours - No Guard or Band Present
a. QRRN 9202 and 9313, and ATP1 Vol 2 Chapter 2 paragraph 203 refer.
b. At 5 minutes prior to the Ceremony:
(1) Controlling Authority hoists ‘Prep’ close up (other Ships repeat).
(2) Rating on Ensign staff reports* to OOD ‘5 minutes to Colours, Sir/Ma’am’.
c. At approximately one minute to the Ceremony the OOD is to order ‘Colour
Party Attention’.
d. At the exact time of the Ceremony (in the following sequence):
(1) Controlling Authority dips ‘Prep’ (other ships conform).
(2) Rating on Ensign staff reports* ‘Eight (or nine) o'clock, Sir/Ma’am’.
(3) OOD orders ‘Make it so’.
(4) Rating detailed strikes eight (or two) bells. Ratings on Ensign and Jack
staffs turn to face the staff.
(5) On completion of the bells, the OOD orders ‘Sound the Alert’ (or ‘Pipe the
Still’ if no bugler is present).
(6) On completion of the Alert/Still:
(a) The Bugler sounds the ‘General Salute’, rating on Ensign and Jack
hoist away at a rate to ensure that both flags reach their block as the last
note of the ‘General Salute’ is sounded or
(b) If no bugler is present, ratings on Ensign and Jack hoist away slowly
so that flags reach their block in approximately 20 seconds (conforming
to the Senior Officer if visible).
(7) When the last note of the ‘General Salute’ has sounded and/or the
Ensign is close up to the block, the rating on the Ensign turns to face the OOD.
(8)
(a) In the Controlling Authority, the OOD then orders ‘Sound/Pipe the
Carry On’ and ‘Prep’ is hauled down (other ships conform).
(b) In ships other than the Controlling Authority, the rating on the Ensign
staff reports ‘Prep Hauled Down, Sir/Ma’am’. the ‘Carry On’ is then
sounded/piped.
(9) On completion of the ‘Carry On’, the OOD orders ‘Colour Party, Dismiss’.
Ensign and Jack halyards are then made fast.
Note. *These reports should be preceded by a hand salute if the Conducting
Officer is a commissioned officer and the rating is not constrained by the
halyards.
Morning Colours - Guard Present
a. QRRN 9314 refers. When a guard is present, the following procedure should
be used in addition to that laid down in Para 1611.
b. At approximately one minute prior to the Ceremony, after the OOD has called
the Colour Party to attention, the Guard Commander is to call the guard to
attention and order ‘Guard, Slope - Arms’.
c. After the Alert/Still is sounded/piped, the Guard Commander is to order
‘Guard, General Salute, Present - Arms’. (All hand salutes are to conform to the
guard's final rifle movement of the present).
d. On completion of the ‘General Salute’ (or, if a band is present, on completion,
of the National Anthem(s), the Guard Commander is to order ‘Guard, Slope -
Arms’. (All hand salutes conform, resuming the position of attention on the final
movement of the guard sloping arms).
e. When the guard has returned to the Slope, the OOD is to order ‘Sound/Pipe
the Carry On’.
f. On completion of the ‘Carry - On’ the Guard Commander is to march off the
guard and, when they have left, the OOD is to order ‘Colour Party, - Dismiss’.
Morning Colours - Band Present
a. QRRN 9313 refers. Should bands be paraded in ships other than the
Controlling Authority, the latter is to be kept informed of the intended ceremonial
programme. When a band is present, the following procedure is to be used in
addition to that laid down in Para 1611, and Para 1612 if appropriate.
b. After the ‘Alert’ has been sounded, the National Anthem is to be played in
place of the ‘General Salute’. The Ensign and Jack are to be hoisted so as to
reach the block on the final note of the anthem.
c. If warships of other countries are present, on completion of the National
Anthem, other anthems are to be played in the following order.
(1) National Anthem of the host country (when in foreign ports).
(2) At the discretion of the senior officer present (British or foreign), a
selection of anthems from other countries in company, taking into account the
seniority of Flag Officers present. Selection to be varied from day to day.
d. When Her Majesty's Ships are in company with ships of Commonwealth
Republic's Navies or the Royal Malaysian Navy, or visiting ports in Commonwealth
Republican States, Malaysia or Singapore, bands are to play the national anthem
of the country concerned immediately after the British National Anthem.
e. After the final note of the last anthem, the guard is ordered to slope arms and
the OOD of the Controlling Authority then orders the ‘Carry - On’ to be sounded.
And in the evening:
Sunset/Evening Colours
a. The ceremony of Sunset is carried out at the actual time of sunset or at 2100
(local), which is known as Evening Colours, whichever is earlier. When in a foreign
port in company with warships of that country, the custom of that country should
be observed in respect of timing. Preparations should follow Para 1504 as far as
is applicable.
b. At 5 minutes prior to the Ceremony:
(1) The Controlling Authority hoists ‘Prep’ close up. (Other ships repeat.)
(2) Rating on the Ensign staff reports* to OOD ‘Five Minutes To Sunset/
Evening Colours, Sir/Ma’am’.
c. At the exact time of the ceremony (in the following sequence):
(1) The Controlling Authority dips ‘Prep’ (other ships conform).
(2) The rating on the Ensign staff reports* ‘Sunset Sir/Ma’am’ or ‘Evening
Colours Sir/Ma’am’.
(3) The OOD orders ‘Sound the Alert’ (or ‘Pipe the Still’ if no bugler is
present).
(4) On completion of the Alert/Still:
(a) The Bugler sounds ‘Sunset’. Ratings on the Ensign and Jack then
lower away at a rate to ensure that the flags are gathered in their arms
by the time the last note is sounded or
(b) If no bugler is present, the Ensign and Jack are lowered in silence in
a time of approximately 20 seconds (following the Senior Officer if
visible.)
(5) On completion of lowering the Ensign, the rating turns to face the OOD.
(a) In the Controlling Authority, the OOD orders ‘Sound/Pipe The Carry
On’ and the Prep is hauled down (other ships conform).
(b) In ships other than the Controlling Authority, the rating reports ‘Prep
Down, Sir/Ma’am’, the ‘Carry - On’ is then sounded/piped.
(6) On completion of the ‘Carry On’, the OOD orders ‘Colour Party, -
Dismiss’. The halyards are then secured and the Colours folded.
Note. *These reports should be preceded by a hand salute if the Conducting
Officer is a commissioned officer and the rating is not constrained by the
halyards.
In the morning:
Time of Morning and Evening Colours
QRRN 9136 refers. Her Majesty's ships, when lying in home ports and roads, are
to hoist their colours at 0800 from 15 February to 31 October inclusive, and at 0900 from
1 November to 14 February inclusive, but when abroad, at 0800 or 0900 as the
Commander-in-Chief shall direct, and they shall be worn if the weather permits or unless
the senior officer present sees objection thereto or directs otherwise, throughout the day
until sunset, when they are to be hauled down. Evening Colours are to be carried out at
sunset or at 2100 when actual sunset is after that time.
Preparations for Morning Colours
a. Colours party personnel should be nominated and individual duties specified
as a matter of normal daily harbour routine. The Duty Senior Communications
Rating (DSCR) should muster and brief his party as to their duties.
b. By thirty minutes prior to the ceremony all arrangements should be completed,
i.e.,
(1) Colour Party mustered and detailed.
(2) Halyards and clips checked.
(3) Ensign and Union Flag Checked and bent on.
(4) Preparative pennant bent on.
(5) Time check carried out.
c. At 15 minutes prior to the ceremony, the DSCR is to report to the Officer of the
Day (OOD) that the Colour Party and all preparations are correct; he should also
report which ship or shore station is controlling the ceremony (for the purpose of
these instructions known as the Controlling Authority).
d. At 10 minutes prior to the Ceremony:
(1) The OOD is to report to the Captain ‘10 minutes to Colours’.
(2) Colour Party close up in their positions (earlier if Guard/Band are
present).
Morning Colours - No Guard or Band Present
a. QRRN 9202 and 9313, and ATP1 Vol 2 Chapter 2 paragraph 203 refer.
b. At 5 minutes prior to the Ceremony:
(1) Controlling Authority hoists ‘Prep’ close up (other Ships repeat).
(2) Rating on Ensign staff reports* to OOD ‘5 minutes to Colours, Sir/Ma’am’.
c. At approximately one minute to the Ceremony the OOD is to order ‘Colour
Party Attention’.
d. At the exact time of the Ceremony (in the following sequence):
(1) Controlling Authority dips ‘Prep’ (other ships conform).
(2) Rating on Ensign staff reports* ‘Eight (or nine) o'clock, Sir/Ma’am’.
(3) OOD orders ‘Make it so’.
(4) Rating detailed strikes eight (or two) bells. Ratings on Ensign and Jack
staffs turn to face the staff.
(5) On completion of the bells, the OOD orders ‘Sound the Alert’ (or ‘Pipe the
Still’ if no bugler is present).
(6) On completion of the Alert/Still:
(a) The Bugler sounds the ‘General Salute’, rating on Ensign and Jack
hoist away at a rate to ensure that both flags reach their block as the last
note of the ‘General Salute’ is sounded or
(b) If no bugler is present, ratings on Ensign and Jack hoist away slowly
so that flags reach their block in approximately 20 seconds (conforming
to the Senior Officer if visible).
(7) When the last note of the ‘General Salute’ has sounded and/or the
Ensign is close up to the block, the rating on the Ensign turns to face the OOD.
(8)
(a) In the Controlling Authority, the OOD then orders ‘Sound/Pipe the
Carry On’ and ‘Prep’ is hauled down (other ships conform).
(b) In ships other than the Controlling Authority, the rating on the Ensign
staff reports ‘Prep Hauled Down, Sir/Ma’am’. the ‘Carry On’ is then
sounded/piped.
(9) On completion of the ‘Carry On’, the OOD orders ‘Colour Party, Dismiss’.
Ensign and Jack halyards are then made fast.
Note. *These reports should be preceded by a hand salute if the Conducting
Officer is a commissioned officer and the rating is not constrained by the
halyards.
Morning Colours - Guard Present
a. QRRN 9314 refers. When a guard is present, the following procedure should
be used in addition to that laid down in Para 1611.
b. At approximately one minute prior to the Ceremony, after the OOD has called
the Colour Party to attention, the Guard Commander is to call the guard to
attention and order ‘Guard, Slope - Arms’.
c. After the Alert/Still is sounded/piped, the Guard Commander is to order
‘Guard, General Salute, Present - Arms’. (All hand salutes are to conform to the
guard's final rifle movement of the present).
d. On completion of the ‘General Salute’ (or, if a band is present, on completion,
of the National Anthem(s), the Guard Commander is to order ‘Guard, Slope -
Arms’. (All hand salutes conform, resuming the position of attention on the final
movement of the guard sloping arms).
e. When the guard has returned to the Slope, the OOD is to order ‘Sound/Pipe
the Carry On’.
f. On completion of the ‘Carry - On’ the Guard Commander is to march off the
guard and, when they have left, the OOD is to order ‘Colour Party, - Dismiss’.
Morning Colours - Band Present
a. QRRN 9313 refers. Should bands be paraded in ships other than the
Controlling Authority, the latter is to be kept informed of the intended ceremonial
programme. When a band is present, the following procedure is to be used in
addition to that laid down in Para 1611, and Para 1612 if appropriate.
b. After the ‘Alert’ has been sounded, the National Anthem is to be played in
place of the ‘General Salute’. The Ensign and Jack are to be hoisted so as to
reach the block on the final note of the anthem.
c. If warships of other countries are present, on completion of the National
Anthem, other anthems are to be played in the following order.
(1) National Anthem of the host country (when in foreign ports).
(2) At the discretion of the senior officer present (British or foreign), a
selection of anthems from other countries in company, taking into account the
seniority of Flag Officers present. Selection to be varied from day to day.
d. When Her Majesty's Ships are in company with ships of Commonwealth
Republic's Navies or the Royal Malaysian Navy, or visiting ports in Commonwealth
Republican States, Malaysia or Singapore, bands are to play the national anthem
of the country concerned immediately after the British National Anthem.
e. After the final note of the last anthem, the guard is ordered to slope arms and
the OOD of the Controlling Authority then orders the ‘Carry - On’ to be sounded.
And in the evening:
Sunset/Evening Colours
a. The ceremony of Sunset is carried out at the actual time of sunset or at 2100
(local), which is known as Evening Colours, whichever is earlier. When in a foreign
port in company with warships of that country, the custom of that country should
be observed in respect of timing. Preparations should follow Para 1504 as far as
is applicable.
b. At 5 minutes prior to the Ceremony:
(1) The Controlling Authority hoists ‘Prep’ close up. (Other ships repeat.)
(2) Rating on the Ensign staff reports* to OOD ‘Five Minutes To Sunset/
Evening Colours, Sir/Ma’am’.
c. At the exact time of the ceremony (in the following sequence):
(1) The Controlling Authority dips ‘Prep’ (other ships conform).
(2) The rating on the Ensign staff reports* ‘Sunset Sir/Ma’am’ or ‘Evening
Colours Sir/Ma’am’.
(3) The OOD orders ‘Sound the Alert’ (or ‘Pipe the Still’ if no bugler is
present).
(4) On completion of the Alert/Still:
(a) The Bugler sounds ‘Sunset’. Ratings on the Ensign and Jack then
lower away at a rate to ensure that the flags are gathered in their arms
by the time the last note is sounded or
(b) If no bugler is present, the Ensign and Jack are lowered in silence in
a time of approximately 20 seconds (following the Senior Officer if
visible.)
(5) On completion of lowering the Ensign, the rating turns to face the OOD.
(a) In the Controlling Authority, the OOD orders ‘Sound/Pipe The Carry
On’ and the Prep is hauled down (other ships conform).
(b) In ships other than the Controlling Authority, the rating reports ‘Prep
Down, Sir/Ma’am’, the ‘Carry - On’ is then sounded/piped.
(6) On completion of the ‘Carry On’, the OOD orders ‘Colour Party, -
Dismiss’. The halyards are then secured and the Colours folded.
Note. *These reports should be preceded by a hand salute if the Conducting
Officer is a commissioned officer and the rating is not constrained by the
halyards.
superheat6k
Well-Known Member
Well done Grumpy OG. For those that do not know ...
QRRN : Queen's Regulations for the Royal Navy
Don't offend or you get a day's number 1's (2 days not normally feasible or necessary !)
QRRN : Queen's Regulations for the Royal Navy
Don't offend or you get a day's number 1's (2 days not normally feasible or necessary !)
mersey
Well-Known Member
A boat in my marina wears the EU flag (which it technically isn't).
Should I grass them up to the marine police? It's been going on for over a year. Up for months at a time, then nothing, then back for months.
They are live aboard.
Should I grass them up to the marine police? It's been going on for over a year. Up for months at a time, then nothing, then back for months.
They are live aboard.
Firefly625
Well-Known Member
Says it all... Probably fitted wheels to the bottom of their boat to make them feel at home..
ricky_s
Well-Known Member
I lower mine around October though not necessarily at 9pm.
