Correct.............try it on the boat instead !! better still without a lifejacket and with a parasitic no win no fee lawyer standing by, Better have your method statement and risk assessment copies to hand in case the government inspector of slightly dodgy practices turns up. Then photograph it and put it on the cover of YM. Bring back good old slightly dangerous fun thats what I say!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif