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Are HR taking over from bavaria as the ford escorts of the boating world ??? On my travels in the last 6 week i've lost count of the amount of new HR's are about in marina. especially the 43. I reckon I've seen 10.

I guess it might have something to do with sweden yachts going pear shaped. And the state of the market at the moment.

Oh and I'd love a go in a pogo never seen one before... anyone sailed one ?
 
To me it is simple economics. The eventual price of a yacht is the difference between what you buy her for and what you sell her for (and how quickly she sells). With interest rates at 0.5% it is a no brainer.

Capital outlay on a large new model is rather formidable but something like a HR 29 or an older model makes a lot of sense.
 
I noticed the same thing - HRs are like t*ts these days. Half the yachting pop has one. Some much bigger than others. :D

It's what happened to BMW who found themselves outselling Ford in the rep, sorry area executive, market.
 
Could it just be that buyers appreciate the very thorough design and high quality construction of HR boats? Or perhaps they like the fact that they sail quite well? Or maybe their families like the reassuringly gentle motion of the boats at sea? Or the fact that they're beautifully finished down below? No, it's probably just the high residual values which they like!

I've had my HR for 15 years, and love it to bits.
 
BlueTwo said:
To me it is simple economics. The eventual price of a yacht is the difference between what you buy her for and what you sell her for (and how quickly she sells).
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Something I've noticed as well. I bought my Dragonfly at 3 years old 7 years ago. Today, the asking price for 10 year old ones is significantly more than I paid for mine. Now I know that asking price may be different from selling price, but it still looks like a good investment.

Cost of a new one in £ has increased significantly over the last 7 years, which probably explains it.

Only problem is that it would be nice to go up a size, but at £250k for a second hand DF36, it's not going to happen any time soon.

I suppose it's a bit like house price increases making you feel rich, but if you are moving up in house value, it actually makes you poorer, because the difference between what you have and the next size up is greater.
 
Hah, do I detect a tremor of financial turbulence in luxury Swede land?

Whenever I read YBW.com threads of delusional group think claiming one cannot loose buying brand X or Y, I know the opposite is going to happen. The Westerly and Nicholson valuation bubble well and truly popped over the past 10 years, HR will follow.

Eight years ago people were claiming that the large fleets of new Bavarias clogging up marinas were a pending financial accident for their owners, am I now to believe that the same economic theory has been suspended for the Suffolk marina full of HRs?
 
Hallberg Rassy is still a relatively small-volume manufacturer, and owners tend to get attached to their boats, so there aren't that many around on the used market. This helps to maintain resale values.
 
A guy I got chatting to over winter has a HR 26 and it's a very nice place to be and he's sailed his all over.. If the other sizes are of the same ilk, it just seems like a good number of folk have good taste and judgement.
 
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