Greta Thunberg is crossing the Atlantic on Vagabond.

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This morning on R4 Today, Paul Kingman of Arguing with Zombie, said that 60% of US Republicans denied, even, that climate was changing, let alone any man made effect. And that the remainder, although accepting MMGW, did not accept any need for action. Clearly, Greta has little effect over the pond.
 
This morning on R4 Today, Paul Kingman of Arguing with Zombie, said that 60% of US Republicans denied, even, that climate was changing, let alone any man made effect. And that the remainder, although accepting MMGW, did not accept any need for action. Clearly, Greta has little effect over the pond.
Wasnt there a forum for frootloops to howl at each other? Perhaps best to put this thread there?
 
Doug 748 This is reported as the her medical diagnosis, as I understand it from her mother's book:
Asperger’s syndrome, high-functioning autism, and OCD. Selective Mutism. Eating disorders – anorexia with anxiety attacks and bouts of depression.
Either way I don't imagine anyone suffering these disadvantages can have anything but difficulties in learning.


I have tried to be patience with your describing Asperger's , clearly again you are talking through your google searches again, I urge you to stop it, you are making yourself look foolish , and misinformed , Aspergers is called high functioning for a reason, if that is hard for you to understand then there is no hope for you , you come across as an ignorant man , with very limited capability to take anything in that you do not believe yourself, do you believe in Aliens by any chance !
Autism in any form is a chemical and brain differential to that of so called normal people it is not caused by having a bad day, the wife leaving you or loosing a loved one , it is a physical manifestation of the brain processing and acting differently, for people with Autism .
I specifically talk about Asperger's because I always believe it is better to hear from those that know the facts (that would be me :eek:) Asperger's is very hard to diagnose , as the child grows up they learn to mask their behaviour , or the parents and school just think its a difficult child for girls especially they tend not to be diagnosed untill high school when hormones play havoc on their condition , this can lead to depression in some cases , as by the time they are 13 they have no idea why they are the way they are , with some depression can come eating disorders well linked to Girls with Asperger's , the mutisim is because they are not understood they will be frank when they say something as they do not realise social ques , they will tell you your Bum does looks big because that is what they see , they find it difficult to lie, or move the subject on they see in tunnel vision and get focused on what they see as they are growing up this creates problems within their social grouping as children were there shunned by others , if caught early as we did with my Daughter at 8 years , my Wife is a Doctor , then we can mitigate and help her understand the world is not full of people like you who are old stuck in their ways and really just dont know what their talking about

You quote learning difficulties is this with your google searches on psychological behaviour in young girls you have been told it is HIGH FUNCTIONING several times I appreciate you might not read other people posts as you are more concerned about your own ego , but HIGH FUNCTIONING relates to a greater IQ and intelligence, in fact they though Albert Eisenstein had Asperger's.
I also have Asperger's and ADHD (have multiply higher education awards) they generally go hand in hand unfortunately they caught me in my 40's and I had a rough life dealing with people like yourself , but I do not get offended by your comments I feel rather sad that you cannot move on with you views and speeches on here , in fact I think you like your own thunder , but it is dated, and all blown out please spare us more of your wisdom on the matter as your talking pish
One could also conclude that your language could cause offence to those reading this and not posting , one needs to maybe think about that too
 
In what way is her disability, if that's what it is, relevant to her message? It's part of who she is, but has no bearing on her ability to understand the, if you'll pardon the expression, clusterfuck that climate change is and will be in the future.

The preponderance of scientific evidence says we're in deep doo doo and digging ourselves deeper all the time. As far as I can make out, pretty much the only people with any scientific credentials who deny Man's influence on climate change and the need for us to do something - a very big something - about it are in the pay of industries that make money out of pollution - petrochemicals and the like. As for the Republicans, screw everyone else and the planet as long as we can be rich seems to be part of their DNA. A rise in temperature and sea levels won't affect their lives significantly - until their beach homes get washed away. It's the poor and poor countries that will suffer first, and they aren't important.
 
In what way is her disability, if that's what it is, relevant to her message? It's part of who she is, but has no bearing on her ability to understand the, if you'll pardon the expression, clusterfuck that climate change is and will be in the future.

The preponderance of scientific evidence says we're in deep doo doo and digging ourselves deeper all the time. As far as I can make out, pretty much the only people with any scientific credentials who deny Man's influence on climate change and the need for us to do something - a very big something - about it are in the pay of industries that make money out of pollution - petrochemicals and the like. As for the Republicans, screw everyone else and the planet as long as we can be rich seems to be part of their DNA. A rise in temperature and sea levels won't affect their lives significantly - until their beach homes get washed away. It's the poor and poor countries that will suffer first, and they aren't important.
Her disability, if you want to call it that, is IMHO of no consequence whatsoever. It's like being left handed or some other way of being a couple of SDs from the median.
It's easy to vilify Republicans, but the problem is not just in the US. Brazil,China, India, Africa and others are not on message. Even the UK is hooked on growth.

All I'm saying about Greta is that's she's consolidated her fanbase among old blokes who sail the internet, and the kids aren't talking about her much any more.

Yachting is fairly much an emblem of Western high consumption, an irony not lost on the last young person I heard mention Greta.

It's all very easy to witter on about nasty petroleum companies and so forth, but it's the consuming public that pays their wages at the end of the day.
So much hypocrisy, so much half-baked eco-twaddle, mankind is probably cruising to a bruising.
 
Her disability, if you want to call it that, is IMHO of no consequence whatsoever. It's like being left handed or some other way of being a couple of SDs from the median.
It's easy to vilify Republicans, but the problem is not just in the US. Brazil,China, India, Africa and others are not on message. Even the UK is hooked on growth.

All I'm saying about Greta is that's she's consolidated her fanbase among old blokes who sail the internet, and the kids aren't talking about her much any more.

Yachting is fairly much an emblem of Western high consumption, an irony not lost on the last young person I heard mention Greta.

It's all very easy to witter on about nasty petroleum companies and so forth, but it's the consuming public that pays their wages at the end of the day.
So much hypocrisy, so much half-baked eco-twaddle, mankind is probably cruising to a bruising.
Indeed, half baked eco twaddle about sums it up. Comfortable lifestyles with the luxury of our western infrastructure to cushion them from the realities of the world! Do they think that the people that I used to work with in Africa give a stuff? With the womens day given over to just getting the basics such as half decent water from a well a mile or more away? Would love to see the squawking coming from the eco twaddlers if their cushioned little lives were not possible because BP or the other majors werent producing the hydrocarbons that make it so! My pointing out the hypocrisy of the blessed ones passengering on a plastic boat powered by two diesel engines whilst lecturing the rest of the world on their use of hydrocarbons, what is wrong with that? The owners of the boat with their child being nappied with disposable ones and the pretty one twinkling her fingers as she ruffles through her organic supplies and other strange woke supplies, watching them preaching veggie ism as they slaughter a fish and devour it raw! Is it any wonder some of us old cynics dont worship at their woke alter?
 
Indeed, half baked eco twaddle about sums it up. Comfortable lifestyles with the luxury of our western infrastructure to cushion them from the realities of the world! Do they think that the people that I used to work with in Africa give a stuff? With the womens day given over to just getting the basics such as half decent water from a well a mile or more away? Would love to see the squawking coming from the eco twaddlers if their cushioned little lives were not possible because BP or the other majors werent producing the hydrocarbons that make it so! My pointing out the hypocrisy of the blessed ones passengering on a plastic boat powered by two diesel engines whilst lecturing the rest of the world on their use of hydrocarbons, what is wrong with that? The owners of the boat with their child being nappied with disposable ones and the pretty one twinkling her fingers as she ruffles through her organic supplies and other strange woke supplies, watching them preaching veggie ism as they slaughter a fish and devour it raw! Is it any wonder some of us old cynics dont worship at their woke alter?
You must find it very hard to move around, given the size of the straw man you are carrying around.
 
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Indeed, half baked eco twaddle about sums it up. Comfortable lifestyles with the luxury of our western infrastructure to cushion them from the realities of the world! Do they think that the people that I used to work with in Africa give a stuff? With the womens day given over to just getting the basics such as half decent water from a well a mile or more away? Would love to see the squawking coming from the eco twaddlers if their cushioned little lives were not possible because BP or the other majors werent producing the hydrocarbons that make it so! My pointing out the hypocrisy of the blessed ones passengering on a plastic boat powered by two diesel engines whilst lecturing the rest of the world on their use of hydrocarbons, what is wrong with that? The owners of the boat with their child being nappied with disposable ones and the pretty one twinkling her fingers as she ruffles through her organic supplies and other strange woke supplies, watching them preaching veggie ism as they slaughter a fish and devour it raw! Is it any wonder some of us old cynics dont worship at their woke alter?
Your rant may be entirely correct at the level you pitch it but if harsh reality dictates that we are destroying the ecosystem we need to live in your opinions are irelevant.
 
Her disability, if you want to call it that, is IMHO of no consequence whatsoever. It's like being left handed or some other way of being a couple of SDs from the median.
It's easy to vilify Republicans, but the problem is not just in the US. Brazil,China, India, Africa and others are not on message. Even the UK is hooked on growth.

All I'm saying about Greta is that's she's consolidated her fanbase among old blokes who sail the internet, and the kids aren't talking about her much any more.

Yachting is fairly much an emblem of Western high consumption, an irony not lost on the last young person I heard mention Greta.

It's all very easy to witter on about nasty petroleum companies and so forth, but it's the consuming public that pays their wages at the end of the day.
So much hypocrisy, so much half-baked eco-twaddle, mankind is probably cruising to a bruising.

All of which is why governments must take the lead. We can all eat less meat, use our cars less etc. It will all add up but, if the planet is going to be inhabitable by future generations, we are going to need massive changes To our current way of life. It may or may not be possible. Greta may well carry on, she may be joined by others. Extinction Rebellion needs to become, perhaps already nas become, more sensible. But, in the long run it is going to need concerted governmental/international action if there Is going to be sustainable human life in the 22nd century.
 
Can everyone please get the message that there is a separate forum for non-sailing rants? A public figure crossing the atlantic with a couple of sailing youtubers is very sailing relevant. Ranting about what that person stands for is not and is not going to contribute to people's overall enjoyment of this forum.....


I agree with you and will ask for the lot to be put on the Climate Change sub forum, I hope you do the same.

The posturing in the last few pages is bizarre. It would be a comfort to me if I believed they were trolling but sadly I think they may be genuine.

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I agree with you and will ask for the lot to be put on the Climate Change sub forum, I hope you do the same.

The posturing in the last few pages is bizarre. It would be a comfort to me if I believed they were trolling but sadly I think they may be genuine.

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Indeed, I made the point a few posts ago that this frootloop howling should be in the backwater where they can howl insults at each other as per normal!
 
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