capnsensible
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Nah, it means you dont read the news.Doesn't the fact that no other public figure is saying the same thing mean that she's not actually very influential at all?
Nah, it means you dont read the news.Doesn't the fact that no other public figure is saying the same thing mean that she's not actually very influential at all?
Wasnt there a forum for frootloops to howl at each other? Perhaps best to put this thread there?This morning on R4 Today, Paul Kingman of Arguing with Zombie, said that 60% of US Republicans denied, even, that climate was changing, let alone any man made effect. And that the remainder, although accepting MMGW, did not accept any need for action. Clearly, Greta has little effect over the pond.
So Frank is wrong then?Nah, it means you dont read the news.![]()
Her disability, if you want to call it that, is IMHO of no consequence whatsoever. It's like being left handed or some other way of being a couple of SDs from the median.In what way is her disability, if that's what it is, relevant to her message? It's part of who she is, but has no bearing on her ability to understand the, if you'll pardon the expression, clusterfuck that climate change is and will be in the future.
The preponderance of scientific evidence says we're in deep doo doo and digging ourselves deeper all the time. As far as I can make out, pretty much the only people with any scientific credentials who deny Man's influence on climate change and the need for us to do something - a very big something - about it are in the pay of industries that make money out of pollution - petrochemicals and the like. As for the Republicans, screw everyone else and the planet as long as we can be rich seems to be part of their DNA. A rise in temperature and sea levels won't affect their lives significantly - until their beach homes get washed away. It's the poor and poor countries that will suffer first, and they aren't important.
How do you convince people who are scientifically illiterate?Wasnt there a forum for frootloops to howl at each other? Perhaps best to put this thread there?
I rest my case!How do you convince people who are scientifically illiterate?
Indeed, half baked eco twaddle about sums it up. Comfortable lifestyles with the luxury of our western infrastructure to cushion them from the realities of the world! Do they think that the people that I used to work with in Africa give a stuff? With the womens day given over to just getting the basics such as half decent water from a well a mile or more away? Would love to see the squawking coming from the eco twaddlers if their cushioned little lives were not possible because BP or the other majors werent producing the hydrocarbons that make it so! My pointing out the hypocrisy of the blessed ones passengering on a plastic boat powered by two diesel engines whilst lecturing the rest of the world on their use of hydrocarbons, what is wrong with that? The owners of the boat with their child being nappied with disposable ones and the pretty one twinkling her fingers as she ruffles through her organic supplies and other strange woke supplies, watching them preaching veggie ism as they slaughter a fish and devour it raw! Is it any wonder some of us old cynics dont worship at their woke alter?Her disability, if you want to call it that, is IMHO of no consequence whatsoever. It's like being left handed or some other way of being a couple of SDs from the median.
It's easy to vilify Republicans, but the problem is not just in the US. Brazil,China, India, Africa and others are not on message. Even the UK is hooked on growth.
All I'm saying about Greta is that's she's consolidated her fanbase among old blokes who sail the internet, and the kids aren't talking about her much any more.
Yachting is fairly much an emblem of Western high consumption, an irony not lost on the last young person I heard mention Greta.
It's all very easy to witter on about nasty petroleum companies and so forth, but it's the consuming public that pays their wages at the end of the day.
So much hypocrisy, so much half-baked eco-twaddle, mankind is probably cruising to a bruising.
You must find it very hard to move around, given the size of the straw man you are carrying around.Indeed, half baked eco twaddle about sums it up. Comfortable lifestyles with the luxury of our western infrastructure to cushion them from the realities of the world! Do they think that the people that I used to work with in Africa give a stuff? With the womens day given over to just getting the basics such as half decent water from a well a mile or more away? Would love to see the squawking coming from the eco twaddlers if their cushioned little lives were not possible because BP or the other majors werent producing the hydrocarbons that make it so! My pointing out the hypocrisy of the blessed ones passengering on a plastic boat powered by two diesel engines whilst lecturing the rest of the world on their use of hydrocarbons, what is wrong with that? The owners of the boat with their child being nappied with disposable ones and the pretty one twinkling her fingers as she ruffles through her organic supplies and other strange woke supplies, watching them preaching veggie ism as they slaughter a fish and devour it raw! Is it any wonder some of us old cynics dont worship at their woke alter?
Your rant may be entirely correct at the level you pitch it but if harsh reality dictates that we are destroying the ecosystem we need to live in your opinions are irelevant.Indeed, half baked eco twaddle about sums it up. Comfortable lifestyles with the luxury of our western infrastructure to cushion them from the realities of the world! Do they think that the people that I used to work with in Africa give a stuff? With the womens day given over to just getting the basics such as half decent water from a well a mile or more away? Would love to see the squawking coming from the eco twaddlers if their cushioned little lives were not possible because BP or the other majors werent producing the hydrocarbons that make it so! My pointing out the hypocrisy of the blessed ones passengering on a plastic boat powered by two diesel engines whilst lecturing the rest of the world on their use of hydrocarbons, what is wrong with that? The owners of the boat with their child being nappied with disposable ones and the pretty one twinkling her fingers as she ruffles through her organic supplies and other strange woke supplies, watching them preaching veggie ism as they slaughter a fish and devour it raw! Is it any wonder some of us old cynics dont worship at their woke alter?
Her disability, if you want to call it that, is IMHO of no consequence whatsoever. It's like being left handed or some other way of being a couple of SDs from the median.
It's easy to vilify Republicans, but the problem is not just in the US. Brazil,China, India, Africa and others are not on message. Even the UK is hooked on growth.
All I'm saying about Greta is that's she's consolidated her fanbase among old blokes who sail the internet, and the kids aren't talking about her much any more.
Yachting is fairly much an emblem of Western high consumption, an irony not lost on the last young person I heard mention Greta.
It's all very easy to witter on about nasty petroleum companies and so forth, but it's the consuming public that pays their wages at the end of the day.
So much hypocrisy, so much half-baked eco-twaddle, mankind is probably cruising to a bruising.
Can everyone please get the message that there is a separate forum for non-sailing rants? A public figure crossing the atlantic with a couple of sailing youtubers is very sailing relevant. Ranting about what that person stands for is not and is not going to contribute to people's overall enjoyment of this forum.....
Indeed, I made the point a few posts ago that this frootloop howling should be in the backwater where they can howl insults at each other as per normal!I agree with you and will ask for the lot to be put on the Climate Change sub forum, I hope you do the same.
The posturing in the last few pages is bizarre. It would be a comfort to me if I believed they were trolling but sadly I think they may be genuine.
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