Greta Thunberg is crossing the Atlantic on Vagabond.

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Refueler said:
I know ... some others on these forums ought to consider that as well !!

Anyway - I do remember there was an article about her 'medical condition' and the fears of some of her activities and limitations as a result.
And I did say - True or Not ? in that post ..
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It's an interesting phenomenon, the requirement by sections of the press to print negative stories about anyone who becomes noteworthy for any reason. And it's notable as well how many of the stories are "exaggerated" to put it mildly.
 
There was an excellent article in Yachting World by Nikki Henderson, the professional yacht skipper brought in to add extra safety cover for the Eastbound voyage on Vagabond (though she was very complementary about the skills of the Vagabond skipper).
She had a chance to get to know Greta in the privacy of the ocean, well out reach of the publicity and press throng. Her comments at the end of the article were very thoughtful - and show that Greta has a level of emotional maturity and insight lacking in many of her detractors.
Nikki, having skippered a Clipper crew round the world, knows a bit about reading people - and I am minded to go with her assessment, having spent quality time alone with her, than the elderly grumblies on here who have never even met her. Worth a read in Yachting World.
 
If you've got an hour to spare o_O, read the comments on their Youtube channel.

There are some seriously opinionated people out there (putting it mildly).

You need a thick skin to be a YouTube 'star'.
 
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Beneteau381 said:
And plastic throwaway nappies. Sigh!
Watched the first episode last night.
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Shocking. Greta will not have approved. She did her bit of course, buying almond milk instead of that evil dairy product made by methane producing, global warming culprits, the cows.
 
Zing said:
Shocking. Greta will not have approved. She did her bit of course, buying almond milk instead of that evil dairy product made by methane producing, global warming culprits, the cows.
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Presumably US grown almonds, where I understand they are just about the most water-hungry food plant ever. Major reason for California droughts.
So I have read.....:unsure:
 
Tradewinds said:
If you've got an hour to spare o_O, read the comments on their Youtube channel.

There are some seriously opinionated people out there (putting it mildly).

You need a thick skin to be a YouTube 'star'.
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Before they took off their Patreon earning figures per episode it was showing $14k per episode, they and Delos were both vying for the top sailing spot at that figure! So that was per week and some weeks she did more episodes!
 
Biggles Wader said:
Good to see we are still talking about the issues involved so Greta's mission has been a great success.
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You rarely see anything of her in mainstream news.
She is preaching to a small following of converts.
Which is fine, but it's not going to change the world.

Sad thing is, there's so few others doing similar.
And so little joined-up thinking.
 
Why is Greta Thunberg so triggering? How can a 16-year-old girl in plaits, who has dedicated herself to the not-exactly sinister, authoritarian plot of trying to save the planet from extinction, inspire such incandescent rage?
Last week, she tweeted that she had arrived into New York after her two week transatlantic voyage: “Finally here. Thank you everyone who came to see me off in Plymouth, and everyone who welcomed me in New York! Now I’m going to rest for a few days, and on Friday I’m going to participate in the strike outside the UN”, before promptly giving a press conference in English. Yes, her second language.
Her remarks were immediately greeted with a barrage of jibes about virtue signalling, and snide remarks about the three crew members who will have to fly out to take the yacht home.
This shouldn’t need to be spelled out, but as some people don’t seem to have grasped it yet, we’ll give it a lash: Thunberg’s trip was an act of protest, not a sacred commandment or an instruction manual for the rest of us. Like all acts of protest, it was designed to be symbolic and provocative. For those who missed the point – and oh, how they missed the point – she retweeted someone else’s “friendly reminder” that: “You don’t need to spend two weeks on a boat to do your part to avert our climate emergency. You just need to do everything you can, with everyone you can, to change everything you can.”
Some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying
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Part of the reason she inspires such rage, of course, is blindingly obvious. Climate change is terrifying. The Amazon is burning. So too is the Savannah. Parts of the Arctic are on fire. Sea levels are rising. There are more vicious storms and wildfires and droughts and floods. Denial is easier than confronting the terrifying truth.












Then there’s the fact that we don’t like being made to feel bad about our life choices. That’s human nature. It’s why we sneer at vegans. It’s why we’re suspicious of sober people at parties. And if anything is likely to make you feel bad about your life choices -- as you jet back home after your third Ryanair European minibreak this season – it’ll be the sight of small-boned child subjecting herself to a fortnight being tossed about on the Atlantic, with only a bucket bearing a “Poo Only Please” sign by way of luxury, in order to make a point about climate change.

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Greta Thunberg
Fintan O’Toole on the climate activistREAD HERE
But that’s not virtue signalling, which anyone can indulge in. As Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, and their-four-private-jets-in-11-days found recently, virtue practising is a lot harder.
Even for someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter, some of the criticism levelled at Thunberg is astonishing. It is, simultaneously, the most vicious and the most fatuous kind of playground bullying. The Australian conservative climate change denier Andrew Bolt called her “deeply disturbed” and “freakishly influential” (the use of “freakish”, we can assume, was not incidental.) The former UKIP funder, Arron Banks, tweeted “Freaking yacht accidents do happen in August” (as above.) Brendan O’Neill of Spiked called her a “millenarian weirdo” (nope, still not incidental) in a piece that referred nastily to her “monotone voice” and “the look of apocalyptic dread in her eyes”.
Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg and a crew consisting of German skipper Boris Herrmann, filmmaker Nathan Grossman, founder of Team Malizia Pierre Casiraghi, and her father Svante Thunberg sailed to the US for the UN Climate Action Summit on the racing boat Malizia II. Photograph: Greta Thunberg/ EPA
Greta Thunberg on her voyage to New York for the the UN Climate Action Summit. Photograph: Greta Thunberg/ EPA
But who’s the real freak – the activist whose determination has single-handedly started a powerful global movement for change, or the middle-aged man taunting a child with Asperger syndrome from behind the safety of their computer screens?
And that, of course, is the real reason why Greta Thunberg is so triggering. They can’t admit it even to themselves, so they ridicule her instead. But the truth is that they’re afraid of her. The poor dears are terrified of her as an individual, and of what she stands for – youth, determination, change.
 
Just watched this and I'm impressed. I generally abhor youtube. The early La Vagbondes had a certain charm but I got bored when they turned into a formulaic travelogue. This is the first one I've watched in a couple of years. Not only is the editing slick and professional and the pacing good and engaging but noticeably...whereas I normally want to feed youtubers through an RJ45 port on a router connected to a mincing machine the moment they say "Hiii guyyyyyyysssss..." Riley and Elena still seem genuinely likeable and mostly avoid the youtube cliches I despise. This is quality stuff and I look forward to the next one.
 
well said capt sensible ,,,, you do have a way with words which i cannot emulate but can certainly congratulate you upon.......................
 
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Greemble said:
A good report, but you're the one that found & posted
Thanks from me, too

*edit - typo
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you were indeed , and should be recognised and applauded as such
Tradewinds said:
Re: Interesting background to the crossing

Interesting to see that Matthieu from Outremer was there on the pontoon after they had done the arrival stuff with the press. Huge publicity for the brand.

Interesting to see that Nikki seems to be getting all the crew limelight rather than Riley and Elayna (as far as the UK is concerned from what I can see). She's going to have quite a career ahead of her I think - she's able to string a decent sentence together to the media. Anyhow, good luck to them all - I wouldn't have done it.
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god you are boring
 
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