Greeline Hydrid

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Really works in the Med, where you can prepare food and just leave it on the galley counter for people sitting in the cockpit to serve themselves.

Yes and it also helps to keep the smell of cooking out of the saloon and stops people spilling red wine on your precious cream carpet

 

[rustybarge]

Yes and it also helps to keep the smell of cooking out of the saloon and stops people spilling red wine on your precious cream carpet

...I could never get the 'if someone spills red wine, pour white wine on it' to work, or was it salt and white wine?

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Obviously you don't need it. Steyr's system is targeted towards much smaller boats than yours. I would suggest it is aimed towards the 4-8t class. Steyr's engine range tops out around 280hp, so it is only logical they target boat sizes that are likely to also use Steyr engines. A 5t boat is unlikely to carry a genset... if for no other reason than it would add 5-6% to the displacement and 8-10% to initial cost. I actually used Greenline 33 as example to calculate these percentages. Here Steyr's system can provide the same capabilities for less money invested and less weight added.... especially if going down the Lithium-battery route; they are not so insanely expensive anymore.

I don't doubt that it's a good system but you still have to start the main engine if you want to charge your batteries or get 220V power and that is going to be a lot noisier and more intrusive than a genset, especially a soundproofed one. All the same, I can see it's use on smaller single engined boats. How much is the Steyr system btw? If its much more than say £4k, its getting into small genset territory

I don't believe anchoring overnight is that common for smaller boats in the 4-8t class.... certainly not with a bunch of kids on board. Still, with Greenline 40's 21kWh battery capacity you could leave on all lights all night (they are mostly LEDs anyway now), run the floor-to-ceiling fridge/freezer unit, cook your meals on electric hotplates and still have power in the mains after 24h.

As I said earlier, for me that would be the major advantage of a hybrid system with a powerful battery pack, particularly in the Med. If you're at anchor overnight or in a marina with insufficient shorepower, it would be very useful to have enough battery power to drive aircon overnight

The price premium for GL33's hybrid version was ~€30.000 in 2012 (i found an old price list from a German dealer on the net). This year the price premium has been reduced to ~€20.000 (different dealer, still Germany). And this is still as an option.... you have to tick a box on the list of extras. What if it was made a standard feature? Maybe the price premium could be lowered to €10.000 as production volumes go up and installation becomes routine for the builder. The 4kW genset option for €14.050 (not including extra batteries) would appear outright silly in comparison.

Well its still expensive. €20k buys a small genset installed and leaves some change for a few hundred gallons of diesel so you'd still have to think v hard whether you ticked the box

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

...I could never get the 'if someone spills red wine, pour white wine on it' to work, or was it salt and white wine?

jfm of this parish put me onto this stuff http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001EMRUUG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Works on teak decks too

 

[Hugin]

Not sure how they got into the US but there's a nice example of Greenline driving at about 1:20min but the helsman doesn't seem to be suffering from any symptoms of docking anxiety

Probably because the helmsman wasn't docking. Notice how the camera was off during actual docking?

Not much sign of those whisper quiet electric motors either

Off course not, they are whisper quiet, remember. Here's another video where there is no sign of them except for the absence of something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dnAorS9P1U

Mind you, I'm not trying to sell you a GL boat. I think the GL boats have some major design goofs, but it has just nothing to do with the hybrid principle

 

[jon711]

It does seem like a great boat for the Norfolk Broads, low speed, low noise.... I would not be suprised if some of the larger hire yards are looking at the concept.....

Jon