Genoa UV strip vs coils on reefing drum

Iliade said:
Was the sail made for that furler?

I had a furler drum come unscrewed from the foil in a strong blow when I fitted and furled according to the sail which I had brought along from a previous boat.:oops:
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I would suggest that there must have been fault with the furler installation - as the furler / drums rotate both directions when used ... to furl and unfurl ... it should be roughly equal turns each direction. ?
 
Chae_73 You are correct from your picture the UV strip is on the Port side of the sail.

The sail is wound on in the wrong direction.

Unwind the sail and with the sail on turn the foil in the direction that brings the UV strip on the outside. That is the correct direction, remember it.

Remember to count the turns needed to completely unwind the sail. that is the number of turns you need to wind on the drum.

Remove the sail, put the correct number of turns on the drum remembering the direction noted earlier.

When rereving the drum make sure you have a good lead down the port side clear of the bars on the drum.

Enjoy your sail.

Phew.
 
As others have said you need to rewind the furling line . The line should feed onto the drum from the port side. I think your main problem is the connection from the stem head fitting to the fork eye on the bottom of the stay . It is all twisted and can only get worse, looks like a big accident waiting to happen. You need to put on some new thicker plates or a long toggle so the twisting motion of the reefed sail is resisted. That will also put the vertical bars in a better position. I would also check that the mast rake is correct, before you fit new toggles or plates.

David MH
 
Lucy52 said:
Chae_73 You are correct from your picture the UV strip is on the Port side of the sail.

The sail is wound on in the wrong direction.

Unwind the sail and with the sail on turn the foil in the direction that brings the UV strip on the outside. That is the correct direction, remember it.

Remember to count the turns needed to completely unwind the sail. that is the number of turns you need to wind on the drum.

Remove the sail, put the correct number of turns on the drum remembering the direction noted earlier.

When rereving the drum make sure you have a good lead down the port side clear of the bars on the drum.

Enjoy your sail.

Phew.
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Post #31 ......

When I looked at his later phot - a quick glance had me think the UV was on inside of turns ... but its not .. what looks like blue'ish each turn edge is in fact shadow / grubby edge. As OP says - shore guy on board looked and confirmed it was correct.

The rotation and furled line can only be that direction if the UV is correct - therefore OP only has to sort the lead in / out of the furling line to stop it rubbing on the wire frame.
 
Refueler said:
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Post #31 ......

When I looked at his later photo - a quick glance had me think the UV was on inside of turns ... but its not .. what looks like blue'ish each turn edge is in fact shadow / grubby edge. As OP says - shore guy on board looked and confirmed it was correct.

The rotation and furled line can only be that direction if the UV is correct - therefore OP only has to sort the lead in / out of the furling line to stop it rubbing on the wire frame.
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Thank you. I was a bit dense yesterday. I thought that the UV strip would be coloured, but the OP has a subtle white one.

As you say, he only needs to adjust the lead, slipping the free end round the bar to stop it rubbing and giving the line a better run.
 
Chae_73 said:
my original question.
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As others have already said, given that the UV strip is on port side of the sail, both the sail and the furling line are correctly wound on. You only need to sort the issue of the furling line bearing on the steel bar.
One thing I find a bit puzzling, though: The number of turns of the furling line on the drum in the photo in post #35. You should only need a few extra turns on the drum when the sail is fully furled (provided that is the case here).
 
I would guess that at some time - the drum and chainplate may have jammed and twisted the chainplate - ending up with that look. Its not uncommon if the drum sits on the forestay swage / talurit .... mine is just a hairsbreath from it ... so I have to be careful when rigging after mast down to make sure I still have that slight clearance.
 
Refueler said:
I would suggest that there must have been fault with the furler installation - as the furler / drums rotate both directions when used ... to furl and unfurl ... it should be roughly equal turns each direction. ?
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The casting for the foil was screwed into the casting for the drum with a gert-great threaded section... Loaded the wrong way it came undone and all the sail unfurled in the middle of a full storm, thankfully inside Poole Harbour.
 
Lucy52 said:
Chae_73 You are correct from your picture the UV strip is on the Port side of the sail.

The sail is wound on in the wrong direction.

Unwind the sail and with the sail on turn the foil in the direction that brings the UV strip on the outside. That is the correct direction, remember it.

Remember to count the turns needed to completely unwind the sail. that is the number of turns you need to wind on the drum.

Remove the sail, put the correct number of turns on the drum remembering the direction noted earlier.

When rereving the drum make sure you have a good lead down the port side clear of the bars on the drum.

Enjoy your sail.

Phew.
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No need to take down the sail, just tie a sail-tie around the furled sail and take off the sheets. Unwind the furling line, counting the number of turns, then wind back on in the opposite direction the same number of turns. Bend the sheets back on and Robert is your father's brother.
The direction of take-off of the furling line can then be corrected , if necessary, bearing in mind thet it should be perpendicular to the spool, for even winding on and off, and that it does not bear against the frame, to avoid chafe. Inspect for chafe throughout the furling/unfurling sequence, not just with the sail fully furled/unfurled, as a reefed-down sail with the furling line chafing on the frame will guarantee that you will end up with a full genoa and no furling line in half a gale. (Been there, on someone else's boat.)
 
Spirit (of Glenans) said:
No need to take down the sail, just tie a sail-tie around the furled sail and take off the sheets. Unwind the furling line, counting the number of turns, then wind back on in the opposite direction the same number of turns. Bend the sheets back on and Robert is your father's brother.
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If the sail is furled - there's only a couple of turns of furling line on the drum.
Second - think its already determined that sail and line are correct except he needs to lead the line other side of frame.

The direction of take-off of the furling line can then be corrected , if necessary, bearing in mind thet it should be perpendicular to the spool, for even winding on and off, and that it does not bear against the frame, to avoid chafe. Inspect for chafe throughout the furling/unfurling sequence, not just with the sail fully furled/unfurled, as a reefed-down sail with the furling line chafing on the frame will guarantee that you will end up with a full genoa and no furling line in half a gale. (Been there, on someone else's boat.)
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Agreed that line needs to be clear of any chafing / rubbing.
 
Spirit (of Glenans) said:
No need to take down the sail, just tie a sail-tie around the furled sail and take off the sheets. Unwind the furling line, counting the number of turns, then wind back on in the opposite direction the same number of turns. Bend the sheets back on, and Robert is your father's brother.
The direction of take-off of the furling line can then be corrected, if necessary, bearing in mind that it should be perpendicular to the spool, for even winding on and off, and that it does not bear against the frame, to avoid chafe. Inspect for chafe throughout the furling/unfurling sequence, not just with the sail fully furled/unfurled, as a reefed-down sail with the furling line chafing on the frame will guarantee that you will end up with a full genoa and no furling line in half a gale. (Been there, on someone else's boat.)
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At first thought that the sail had been bent on the wrong way around, but later corrected my error. Sorry if it led you astray.

I believe that all he needed to do was to re-route the furling line.
 
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