Twister_Ken
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No gas at cooker, bottle full, all taps open.
What are the odds of getting a regulator that's faulty?
What are the odds of getting a regulator that's faulty?
Gas problem - regulator?
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Robin
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Is there actually no gas at the cooker or too much that it won't light but therefore looks like no gas? I have had several GAZ cylinders that were over filled and wouldn't light at the stove until some was vented off directly from the cylinder. Never ever had this problem with Calor, even though it is the same gas and filled at the same depot.
Twister_Ken
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Not the problem. Worked last year, didn't work yesterday (first time tried this year).
prv
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Regulators do go wrong. Had several over the years with this exact symptom.
Pete
Pete
Robin
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Did you leave the taps open long enough to get gas all the way through after a long time unused? I'm sure you did but got to ask! Otherwise is there a small air hole at the regulator that maybe is blocked with a bit of corrosion? Is it a simple cylinder mounted regulator or a wall mounted separate one? I did have similar problems once with a changeover type one running two cylinders and the blocked airhole was one cause.
Twister_Ken
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Cylinder mounted. Will check the airhole.
Another thought - could condensation have got into the pipe run during the winter, leading to a water block somewhere? Seems unlikely.
prv
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That's easy to tell apart from a duff regulator though, as you can hear the air hissing through the burner, or see it blowing the flame of the match you're trying to use to light it. If the regulator's knackered, you get no action at all at the cooker.
Pete
Scotty_Tradewind
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I have similar problem. (First time I've had gas onboard... never been a fan, friends boat blew up on the Thames years ago.)
When the cylinder is 'empty', can you still hear the remnants of gas sloshing around in the bottle a little, or would it be silent when shaken?
Searush
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If truly empty there is no liquid gas to slosh about. Are there any "safety" taps in the supply line that may have been turned off?
Regulators are not that expensive, buy one & try it. If it isn't the problem, then you have a spare for next time.
Poignard
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In my case - one in 14 years and that was on the boat when we bought her.
I also sold my spare one to another yachtsman last year so that makes two incidences in my experience.
So yes, they can and do go wrong. I replaced mine with one supposedly designed for marine use.
Worth carrying a spare, I think. Cold FB pies are even more disgusting than hot ones.
Which reminds me, I must replace the spare I sold.
prv
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I've encountered three.
First one was with my parents, first thing in the morning in Cowes Yacht Haven. Mum won't get out of bed without her cup of tea
. Dad and I trying everything to get the cooker to light, changing bottles etc, not helped by the fact that this boat had the gas bottles in the anchor locker but aft of the opening hatch, so you had to hang upside down to reach in and fiddle with valves etc. Took a while to realise the regulator was duff (never seen it before). Managed to buy one somewhere in Cowes; as soon as we fitted it and confirmed that was the problem, Dad launched the old one into the middle of the Medina in a fit of frustration When picking up a charter boat, the owner tried to demo the correct lighting of the stove, but nothing coming through. He sussed what the problem was pretty quickly, and popped out to get the spare one he happened to have in his car.
Kindred Spirit's regulator was also duff when we bought her. Again, being aware of the possibility it was simple to nip home and get the one off the portable camping griddle.
So yeah, they do go wrong and it's not all that uncommon.
Pete
VicS
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I once had one stick shut.
Removed it and sucked on the outlet. Freed it OK and it gave many more years service
Remember it is recommended that they should be replaced every 10 years
You might like to consider a marine regulator to Annexe M ( on the other hand you might not!)
(Corrosion resistant materials above the diaphragm; vent hole positioned to prevent water accumulating on the diaphragm and an over pressure relief valve.)
http://www.socal.co.uk/Toolbox/GasBOAT_Regulators/430
http://www.gasboat.net/GasBOAT Safety Regulators.pdf
But try my trick of sucking on the outlet ( mine was a Camping GaZ one)
jsl
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yup: could be the regulator
I have had one fail in the way you describe. Rather to my surprise, it 'recovered' when I disconnected it and blew through it. At first, it felt blocked, then it began to let some puff through.... I guess the blockage was a salt crystal.
I have had one fail in the way you describe. Rather to my surprise, it 'recovered' when I disconnected it and blew through it. At first, it felt blocked, then it began to let some puff through.... I guess the blockage was a salt crystal.
Sandyman
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I had problems with one but that was a combined regulator & on/off valve.
The spindle had become detached from the operating knob inside the body of the valve and though the knob indicated the valve was open, internally it was still closed.
I wouldn't bother mucking around with it trying to fix it. They only cost around a fiver so best to just buy a new one.
The spindle had become detached from the operating knob inside the body of the valve and though the knob indicated the valve was open, internally it was still closed.
I wouldn't bother mucking around with it trying to fix it. They only cost around a fiver so best to just buy a new one.
DownWest
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Spent the last 30 odd years cooking off bottled gas. Several times there was slosh in the bottle but no outcoming gas. Just this week, I had one that vented off with a goody niff of gas. But did not burn. There is a rubber gizmo on the bottom of the valve that I think is designed to shut off supply if the flow is too fast (as in leak). No confidence in this.
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Regulaters? One in 30 yrs. And that blocked off, not over supplied.
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Regulaters? One in 30 yrs. And that blocked off, not over supplied.
Falling Star
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yup, me too
Seems unlikely to happen but, yes, no warning - I had one that failed in that way. I guess they always "fail safe" and just shut the gas off. Better that way than being fully unregulated!
Seems unlikely to happen but, yes, no warning - I had one that failed in that way. I guess they always "fail safe" and just shut the gas off. Better that way than being fully unregulated!
colvic987
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gas causes the rubber to leech plasticers and then causes blockages in the rubber pipe.
take the rubber hose off the end of the regulator and check for oil substance, if so then either clean out or get new hose, preferably the latter.
also check the end of the regulator for oily substance it might also need replacing.
take the rubber hose off the end of the regulator and check for oil substance, if so then either clean out or get new hose, preferably the latter.
also check the end of the regulator for oily substance it might also need replacing.
alahol2
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Had this at the beginning of the season. A sharp rap on the regulator with a plastic screwdriver handle freed it up. It's been working fine since.
Brittany
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can also be the bottle
We recently had a new gas bottle (full) yet no gas would come out of it. Disconnecting it and opening the valve led to a brief puff of gas then it shut itself off inside the valve, guess some sort of washer had come loose and was acting as a one way valve but the wrong way.
We recently had a new gas bottle (full) yet no gas would come out of it. Disconnecting it and opening the valve led to a brief puff of gas then it shut itself off inside the valve, guess some sort of washer had come loose and was acting as a one way valve but the wrong way.
saltylegs
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my best guess is that the diaphram breather is blocked if you can see it clear it with a few stiff hairs from a brush or remove the outlet pipe from the reg and let it blow at full bore (overboard to a safe area) and also check that there is no water in the reg and as has been mentioned already if over 10 years chuck it and get a new one.
Also if this is a new style reg to you and is it one that has a manual reset, under pressure cut off(UPSO) in which case reset it.
Also if this is a new style reg to you and is it one that has a manual reset, under pressure cut off(UPSO) in which case reset it.
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