Garage Door Fallen Off

Sishoe

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Though i'd share my rather frightening experience that occurred on the Sunday of the recent bank holiday.
We'd had a great day in Osbourne Bay enjoying the fabulous weather, and were just getting ready to depart for home and also waiting for the ice-cream boat to finally come over. I had opened the garage door to retrieve the tender that we'd been messing about on (responsibly of course and not near other boats :cool:), I was situated inside the garage, extending the winch and sliding out the retrieval guide.
I suddenly heard what I first thought was dripping water, which quickly got louder and I determined sounded more like splintering grp!! I looked up to see the grp failing around where the door is bolted to the lifting frame, I instinctively dropped everything (inc the line connected to the tender) and tried to jump out the garage and on to left side section of bathing platform. Unfortunately I didn't make it in time and the door came crashing down landing on base my back and right upper arm. Its a bit of a blur from then but I think I managed to free my back and arm (whist calling for help from swmbo) this allowing the door to then crash down onto the back on my legs. I think i got swmbo to take the weight of the door off my legs and at the same time I managed to jam a ball fender in between the side of the door and one of the side steps, allowing me to release my legs.
Once free, and thankfully still in one piece, I then noticed the tender drifting into the distance, but also thankfully the Ice cream boat finally arriving.
5, 99's please, and would you mind retrieving our tender? Probably the most expensive 5 ice creams I've ever bought, but well worth it to get the tender retrieved.
Thankfully i only received cuts to my knees and severe bruising to arm legs and back, as it could of been hell of a lot worse (broken back seems a possibility).
So we had to tow the tender home and rope the garage door on (losing that would have made the event a real financial disaster), but all got back safely if not a little later than planned.
There are a couple of photos on the link below which show the bonded plates, which are normally glassed in to the door and that the lifting fame is bolted too, which have completely torn out. This was caused by the weight of the door alone, there was nothing on the sun pad above adding to the weight.
Too me it appears a poor under engineered design, and one I can't see how Fairlines' designers at the time could of ever deemed suitable. The plates are only the same size as the the flanges on the end of the lifting brackets, I'm no engineer in this respect, but I imagine the forces exerted on the glassed in plates when the door is fully open would be pretty high, and in effect trying to tear them out the door (which is what happened).
I've been on holiday for a week, so repairs are only at an initial ideas stage, but my thinking is that replacement plates need to extend to at least the rear end of the sun pad and maybe through bolted to further SS plates on the outside deck of the sun pad for extra strength?
Also attached are pictures of the door open so you get an idea what I'm taking about, and one showing the door after it had failed (and let saving ball fender).

I realise all boats are to a certain extent prototype "work in progress" items, and my Targa 64 had a particularly short run of 2008/2009 (i'm assuming due to the impending financial meltdown at the time) so accept issues like this probably didn't occur during the production run or warranty period, but its frightening to think in-house designed components could be so under engineered from what we all assume to be a better than most manufacturer.

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Close call.

Do bear in mind the boat is some 9 years old and anything could have happened to the garage door in that time ( overloaded etc). If it were a known flaw i would assume if would have come to light in that time frame.

I am not defending Fairline, but just commenting there maybe another explanation.

I hope you recover and it gets fixed soon.
 
sounds like you had a narrow escape, just cuts and bruises. Could have been much worse if a child had been involved.
From the pictures it looks like the whole garage door and hinge mechanism needs a serious re-think. I think Fairline should be interested in solving the problem (albeit out of warranty) for the sake of their own reputation and I suspect fixing any other targa 62s out there with the same potential issue. Especially any they sold in the USA.
 
Close call.

Do bear in mind the boat is some 9 years old and anything could have happened to the garage door in that time ( overloaded etc). If it were a known flaw i would assume if would have come to light in that time frame.

I am not defending Fairline, but just commenting there maybe another explanation.

I hope you recover and it gets fixed soon.

I don't want to come across as unnecessarily FL bashing, I'm very proud of what I believe to be my first decent and significantly British built boat (bearing in mind its my 5th boat), and you're very correct that who knows what might have happened to the door in the last 8 years.
My main concern is with the overall design of the connection of the door to the lifting frame, which I think most would agree (but maybe without specific expertise) appears under engineered for the application.
 
sounds like you had a narrow escape, just cuts and bruises. Could have been much worse if a child had been involved.
From the pictures it looks like the whole garage door and hinge mechanism needs a serious re-think. I think Fairline should be interested in solving the problem (albeit out of warranty) for the sake of their own reputation and I suspect fixing any other targa 62s out there with the same potential issue. Especially any they sold in the USA.

OP's boat is a T64, not a T62 - as he says, the T64 had a much shorter production run (and within that short run iirc there were two garage door/cockpit variants). The other thing to consider here is that this boat was made by the previous incarnation of Fairline, and in fact this particular model was replaced by the T58/T62 before that company went into liquidation and Fairline Yachts was created.

Nasty incident though, and it does look like the whole mechanism needs looking at. Job for Desty or Osmotech perhaps? Good luck to the OP with getting it sorted.
 
Lucky escape for you.
+1 Desty (Endeavour Gosport) they are approved by most insurance underwriters and do a 1st class job in this area. I'm familiar to that Fairline cracking GRP noise as my Passeralle decided to pull the transom out last year but Desty repaired it with added reinforcement.
 
In my view that looks like a terrible design the leverage on that fixing is huge. I know technically Fairline is now a different company but I still think you should make them aware of what happened. Could save another persons life. I would hope they take this seriously

Dennis
 
Pleased you are okay! Is there not a strut (maybe even two for yours) to be placed
in order to support the weight once lifted? That's certainly the case with my T52
(1 strut) and in all honesty, I'm keen to get it in place asap.
 
Glad you are fine and unhurt. Its pretty bad if bad design or craftsmanship can hurt you. On the other hand it isn't such a big problem to fix this. Some boats are happy to even float. :D
 
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The problem is that it's impossible to do a safety communication or recall as there is no record of who owns the boats. And I can't see Nick Barke giving Fairline the names of his customers over the past 10 years!
 
As a "raggie" I can't quite equate to the technical side of the incident, but so glad your injuries were not MUCH worse.
What lucky escape.

Quite a few garage doors of in the Leeward Islands.......
Poor sods, they just had no escape, and now there's another H'cane coming.
Better not let this be a thread-drift.

I hope you can get swift, sound and inexpensive repairs done.
 
The problem is that it's impossible to do a safety communication or recall as there is no record of who owns the boats. And I can't see Nick Barke giving Fairline the names of his customers over the past 10 years!


Not quite true

The original owner is known to the factory, however of course the boat changes hands many many times.
 
Are you sure? I remember a lot of discussion around this when New Fairline started up (people were upset that the factory didn't contact them). Also, in many cases the first owner according to the BoS is the dealer. In any case, there might be DP issues if using data for a different purpose to what it was collected for (a technicality I know).
 
OP's boat is a T64, not a T62 - as he says, the T64 had a much shorter production run (and within that short run iirc there were two garage door/cockpit variants)

True but was not the Targa 64 GT a further development of the 2004 to 2007 Targa 62 GT. Hull extended better cockpit layout etc
Anyways this can be a nasty accident, and we can all smile and blame no one and defend the old or new make.

In the MYB loved car terms it is like your boot fall off. We would see loads of recalls in the car industry if this happened....
 
True but was not the Targa 64 GT a further development of the 2004 to 2007 Targa 62 GT. Hull extended better cockpit layout etc

It was, but the garage and cockpit were completely redesigned from the T62 to the T64, so I don't think you can draw any implication for the T62 from this (so far, at least) isolated incident on this T64. And, while I am completely sympathetic to the OP's situation, as jrudge rightly pointed out in #2, anything could have happened to the boat between manufacture in 2008/09, and the OP's purchase (which iirc was only fairly recently).
 
In my view that looks like a terrible design the leverage on that fixing is huge. I know technically Fairline is now a different company but I still think you should make them aware of what happened. Could save another persons life. I would hope they take this seriously

Dennis

I'd be happy to pass on the experience to anyone at FL should they be interested, but given the changes that have taken place at FL over the last few years, I wouldn't expect them to take much of an interest.
 
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