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The trip to Yarmouth from the Hamble was truly scary, once out and committed to the journey the winds lifted and we found ourselves in the middle of a Gale Force 7 going on 8. We had started to follow Col in his 39ft Sunseeker but his weight could not eveb flatten the rough stuff for us, we were on our own, and how true that felt with peaks and troughs bigger than the boat.

Swmbo and my 4yr old were down below, I had racylady and GeoffS on board, the waves were lashing over us, we were soaked to the skin! Geoff decided to go below to check on those inside, as he went through the sliding door it was as if a huge bucket of water had been thrown in after him.

We did consider returning but the waves were so huge I feared that we would be swamped, I headed to Newtown Creek for shelter, but crossong was hampered by the very real possibility of being hit broadside and being tossed over. We crabbed over taking huge amounts of water on deck. Keith (racylady) was spotter and radio controller. The EDC delay on the throttle didn't help at all when driving the huge waves, the delay vaused some stuffing and I gave up with that idea, survival was my only thought!

We eventually got into the safish haven of Newtown Creek, dropped anchor and were relieved to be alive. We then received a call on the VHF from call to say that things were not so bad now, we had a vote and decided to go for it. We fought through more rough stuff, not as bad as we had faced and eventually arrived shattered, the boat had been magnificent, it was us that were near breaking point.

Mooring up was another bit of fun and games with Gale Force winds in a small marina, I did some piroets and seemingly fantastic moves but it was sheer luck with that dreaded EDC and me being led by it rather than the other way round. We eventually moored up without a single scratch, it was time for a beer and to meet the huge turnout of forumites. We all went to a pub later and did some bonding, what a fantastic and diverse bunch too, the fun is just starting, all I need is a skipper to take the boat home as swmbo is never going out on it again!! Poor woman, maiden voyage and we seemed DOOMED.

Further updates to follow.
 
Similar thing happened with my SWMBO on our first trip, she was clinging to a chainplate in the main saloon and praying! That was 12yrs ago and I have not been able to get her on the boat outside the marina since. Daughter who was very young at that time was not bothered at all and loves the boat, would live on it if I let her. Perhaps in time your SWMBO will not have such as good memory as mine.
 
You took a brand new small single engined boat,with wife and 4 year old child on board, out in a gale force 8!!?? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
 
I'm absolutely staggered!

Just gone on to read the following in another thread.

Guess who recently posted this about a short river passage in strong winds...!! (Regarding an experienced boat instructor no less) /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif


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Sorry, but I don't think praising people for going out in the conditions mentioned is responsible at all, especially such a non essential trip. It may give others including people like me ideas and I could sink with inexperience.

Sorry but I am not impressed at all.


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Regarding conditions, the thread heading and post says it all, perhaps if you laid off the sherry at lunchtime you would see that!

I am still unimpressed, and will not let this affect my judgement of sea conditions in the future.

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I have enough experience to know when NOT to go out, it doesn't take the brains of Britain to jump in your boat in any conditions and head off only later to become a cropper by whatever and rely on the bravery of the emergency services to save you. When conditions are bad there is NO excuse to venture out when not absolutely necessary.

I can't applaud an action that is clearly from the description risky (or no mention of it would have been made), it's about time safety was taken more seriously. In fact I have applied and been accepted on an independent health and safety course, I thought it would help with my boating, it will be interesting to see what I learn

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Remarkable! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
We have been in Port Solent since early Sat morning, and even my 10 year old daughter knew from the wind battering the boat that it would not be 100% safe to go out in a 43ft twin engined boat, let alone a single engined 29 footer. You do not need all the satey kit in the world if you read a piece of A4 paper displayed in the Marina office....
 
Ah well, you made it, anyhow. Makes me glad of my nice solid dry wheelhouse, just when I was thinking of adding a flybridge to 'Raedwald' (well, actually an extra wheel and throttle on the back of the wheelhouse, with me standing on the engine casing and peering over the top...)
 
Guilty as charged. I was following very experienced crew on a bigger mobo, and had two very experienced crew with me, mobo and raggie, but in the end the decision would be mine as skipper so no excuse at all.

A lesson has been learnt and in future the worry about letting people down (those organising the event) will take second place.

In my defence I would say our departure was delayed due to unforseen circumstances, this led us into the wind over tide scenario, and on top of that an ever increasing wind at that.

The 25ft boat took the weather no problem at all and I really enjoyed the challenge, but when the wind increased unexpectantly as skipper I headed for a safe haven, Newtown Creek. I hope that my experience will be a lesson to others, that's how we learn. I am not proud of the fact that my wife has been put off boating for life and that we are now considering a new hobby, so apologies to all for my actions.

The ironic thing is it was the kindness and help of two professional skippers, Solitaire and powerskipper who gave up their time to give me tuition on Friday, and it was that instruction that gave me the confidence to handle the boat. Thanks to both of them.
 
Is GC1 really the hapless buffoon he continually professes to be? Having read most of his posts I am now inclined to the view that he is a satirical writer who can't get published elsewhere and so spends his time airing his fantasies as Ricky Jervais' alter ego on this Forum. Perhaps he could post a photo of himself so that we can either avoid him if we see him coming, or get his autograph, depending on which view we take. In either case, the contents of his posts display good grounds for divorce.
 
There is such a big turnout of forumites here at Yarmouth, there is no doubt that there will be a full de-brief on here ;-)

We are having a wonderful time with such wonderful people and the fun has just begun.
 
I must say that GeoffS has to be thanked for looking after swmbo in the cabin and explaining to her why fish were passing the portholes and why it was also almost permanently underwater ;-(
 
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In my defence I would say our departure was delayed due to unforseen circumstances,

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Pete, all accidents are a result of unforseen circumstances.

It seems the major issue here was peer pressure which can even overcome the one on here who seems to be the most risk aware. It can be a dangerous thing. Big pat on the back for admitting you were wrong though.

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I am not proud of the fact that my wife has been put off boating for life and that we are now considering a new hobby, so apologies to all for my actions.

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now Pete, don't rush into things and get everyone's hopes up. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

At least Louise and young 'un are safe, if a little shaken up.
 
It's all good experience, especially if lesons are learned, I doubt htere was any real danger of the boat being swamped as they will generally take far more punishment than the crew. I have no qualms about turning back and in fact often venture out just to gauge the actual conditions with the intention of turning back if they are too bad. On many occasions they are far better than expected allowing unexpected progress.
Always keep your woman happy and safe at all times to ensure continued boating!
 
I have had a very enriching experience. There is no way that Col would have had me follow him over had he known what was going to happen ahead, even his very heavy 39ft Sunseeker was tossed around like a toy boat when the wind increased, the waves grew and at about the halfway point even the most experienced on my boat realised it was so bad we would have to turn back, but when waves much bigger than your boat are facing you, to have them coming up behind you would be terrifying, hence my decision to head to Newtown Creek.

I must say that I noticed my previous commando training kicked in and the jokes turned to serious and professional mode for a change, nice to know the instinct and training is still there. Don't worry, this little character building excercise will never be forgotten by GeoffS, racylady nor us, let's hope it makes our future safer.
 
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Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis:

Forecast Issued on Friday 26 May 2006, 04:59 Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis

Serial Number: 87 Here is a strong wind warning for coastal waters from Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis and up to 12 nautical miles offshore Southwest winds will reach force 6 today, locally force 7 at times. Valid Until: 1800 on 26, May 2006


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Was it really such a shock?

We have to sit through so much diatribe from you about being safe and keeping our families safe, over and over you take the high ground on safety and lecture people with experience about how they should run their vessels and how so many should not be allowed out with training. Oh! your lectures about old boats needing scrapping as they're unsafe and skippers who put children at risk.

The weather forecasts on Friday suggested weather clearly outside your level of skill and experience, yet you took your innocent child and wife to sea with a near gale forecast. Then, you have the audacity to come on here and act all surprised that it got a bit bumpy. You have talked about crossing the channel, I do hope you mean the small boat channel in Portsmouth.

Before you get all wussy about me picking on you, yes it is personal, but only because you have spent a year patronising us about 'our' murderous behaviour taking risks with 'our' innocent families. I am actually angry with you!

You Sir are a buffoon!


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Having read most of his posts I am now inclined to the view that he is a satirical writer who can't get published elsewhere and so spends his time airing his fantasies as Ricky Jervais' alter ego on this Forum.

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Which is why we love him or hate him - and sometimes both - and his posts are compulsive reading for those in both catagories, except of course, those who have him on 'ignore'.

To Pete - the missed call I got from you this morning at 10.40, was that to ask me to call out rescue services, because if it was, it may be a little late now. Hope you were just waving.

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Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis:

Forecast Issued on Friday 26 May 2006, 04:59 Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis

Serial Number: 87 Here is a strong wind warning for coastal waters from Selsey Bill to Lyme Regis and up to 12 nautical miles offshore Southwest winds will reach force 6 today, locally force 7 at times. Valid Until: 1800 on 26, May 2006


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Was it really such a shock?

We have to sit through so much diatribe from you about being safe and keeping our families safe, over and over you take the high ground on safety and lecture people with experience about how they should run their vessels and how so many should not be allowed out with training. Oh! your lectures about old boats needing scrapping as they're unsafe and skippers who put children at risk.

The weather forecasts on Friday suggested weather clearly outside your level of skill and experience, yet you took your innocent child and wife to sea with a near gale forecast. Then, you have the audacity to come on here and act all surprised that it got a bit bumpy. You have talked about crossing the channel, I do hope you mean the small boat channel in Portsmouth.

Before you get all wussy about me picking on you, yes it is personal, but only because you have spent a year patronising us about 'our' murderous behaviour taking risks with 'our' innocent families. I am actually angry with you!

You Sir are a buffoon!


No f'in smileys required!

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I think that pretty much covers it.

(And exactly what I was implying when I referenced his other posts in another thread above criticising a professional skipper for going out in strong winds).

Laughable.
 
eh ari ..... dont be judge jury and excecutioner .......

surely the attraction of owning/skippering a boat is having the ability to make decisions.

surely the essay by gc1 recounts a dit whereby the story might embellish the facts a tiny weeny bit.

surely having two experienced ppl with him (whom no doubt guided and advised him when necessary - regardless of any 'pressures'), were able to oversee any undesirable untoward results, thus reducing any dangers to a managable level.

surely the day out resulted in a sucessful end to the adventure, ok with the memsahib a bit rattled, but a bit of roughers is what boating is about ffs, its not about canoeing on the serpentine!

I am sure there was no real danger at any time, as they were even escorted by onother boat with an experienced crew.

so stop being a couch commodore and get real, a bit of spray didnt do anyone any harm and has given some ppl an experience they will remember for a long time.

IMHO its you who sounds like a buffoon pontificating like that, they were in the solent ffs ........ grow up !!!! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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The ironic thing is it was the kindness and help of two professional skippers, Solitaire and powerskipper who gave up their time to give me tuition on Friday, and it was that instruction that gave me the confidence to handle the boat. Thanks to both of them.

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Does that mean a suitable grovelling apology to Powerskipper will now be forthcoming /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Hi Pete I have to agree with some other posts here.

You have been keeping us all informed about the progress of your new vessel, and about all the safety gear you will have on boat, and how you would not go out if its too rough, and that you were clearly looking forward to a wonderfull season aboard your new boat with your family.

And what have you gone and done? put the wife off for life. You are not the first and will not be the last to do that, by taking her out when its too rough.

From my experience with a few exceptions, most ladies do not like it that rough, and the experience has an adverse effect.
 
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