Fuel prices

[Sandy]

Good to see diesel down to under £1.45 in our local Sainsburys'. How much are marinas charging?

 

[st599]

With HMRC complaining about 60/40 being abused, will be interesting to see where the price goes to.

 

[ashtead]

Less than 1.45 at Dartmouth but the service lacks a certain welcoming smile -around £1.30 I think this June. We tend to only refuel once a year though .

 

[lustyd]

With HMRC complaining about 60/40 being abused, will be interesting to see where the price goes to.

60/40 is their own recommendation so couldn't possibly be abused. You're free to declare any split you like up to and including 100% domestic if you think it's correct, but 60/40 is recommended to avoid having to justify electric and heating usage or to try to measure such usage.
Do you have any links to backup the assertion that they have an issue? Generally, as a non political entity, HMRC don't care as long as the rules are being followed, and at 60/40 the rules are being followed to the letter.

 

[fisherman]

What happens if you have a friendly small farm that will sell you a can of red for cash? Not that I condone such chicanery....
Do you get dipped and checked?

 

[Mudisox]

What happens if you have a friendly small farm that will sell you a can of red for cash? Not that I condone such chicanery....
Do you get dipped and checked?

"Rumour" has it at 0.74p per litre.

 

[st599]

60/40 is their own recommendation so couldn't possibly be abused. You're free to declare any split you like up to and including 100% domestic if you think it's correct, but 60/40 is recommended to avoid having to justify electric and heating usage or to try to measure such usage.
Do you have any links to backup the assertion that they have an issue? Generally, as a non political entity, HMRC don't care as long as the rules are being followed, and at 60/40 the rules are being followed to the letter.

Not according to the RYA's news site:

Heading into the new season, recreational boaters are reminded of their responsibility to ensure they make the correct declaration when purchasing red diesel.

The RYA was delighted when it was announced in March 2021 that recreational boaters would retain the right to purchase red diesel at the waterside in Great Britain provided the full rate of duty was paid when purchasing fuel for the purposes of propulsion. Regrettably, in Northern Ireland recreational boaters did not receive the same benefit and are no longer able to use red diesel for propulsion.

An essential part of the new law in Great Britain (GB) is that recreational boaters buying red diesel must declare the per cent of fuel being used for either propulsion or for domestic usage. If you are purchasing red diesel, then there is always a possibility that HMRC will ask to see fuel receipts and evidence of usage.

Retaining access to red diesel for recreational boaters at the waterside is an entitlement that should be valued to ensure supplies are available in the more remote ports and harbours. It is crucial that the processes in place are respected to ensure that it is not jeopardised.

Do not​

Do not assume a split of 60% for propulsion and 40% for domestic use if this does not accurately reflect your intended use.

If in Northern Ireland, do not put red diesel into the tank of a private pleasure craft for propulsion purposes.

Do​

When buying diesel for your craft, do make a declaration to the supplier based on your intended use.

Declare what percentage of the fuel will be used for propulsion (as opposed to domestic purposes such as heating or cooking). There is no fixed allowance for propulsion vs domestic purposes.

If your primary residence is your boat, It will help to have documentation available which confirms this when buying fuel for domestic use.

If you are visiting Northern Ireland from GB, do retain receipts to show that the fuel was purchased in GB.

Do always retain receipts when purchasing red diesel, especially when visiting other countries. It is also useful to log engine hours.

 

[lustyd]

Not according to the RYA's news site:

No, but according to the government, who wrote the rules...

5.3 Work out the proportion of fuel used for propulsion​

We recognise that the declaration made by you will be an estimate, but you must make every effort to make sure it’s an accurate reflection of your usage.


Analysis by both the industry and HMRC suggests that a split of 60% for propulsion and 40% for other use probably reflects most people’s fuel use and it’s therefore likely that many users will declare such an apportionment. This will make it easier for suppliers (registered dealers in controlled oil) to work out the additional duty and VAT.


However, where you know that your propulsion use may be more or less apportioned 60% for propulsion and 40% for other use, or a craft clearly has no non-propulsion fuel use, then you must declare your actual intended usage.


The method of apportionment introduced under this scheme may only be applied to supplies of rebated (red) diesel, biodiesel or bioblend.

 

[C08]

Petrol £2.21 at Dartmouth fuel barge

 

[fisherman]

When I started fishing red was 1p/litre, and there were very few diesel cars on the road, just the odd Merc, and Land Rovers and trucks.

 

[Momac]

Good to see diesel down to under £1.45 in our local Sainsburys'. How much are marinas charging?

I paid £1.15 in May at 60/40 duty split
But the price seem to vary widely. The least I have heard of is £1.08 last week at the 60/40 duty split

 

[PetiteFleur]

I've been buying road diesel for several years now as my boatyard no longer supplies to leisure boater due to 'paperwork'. I paid £1.44/litre for diesel from Asda recently. I usually fill 2 x 10L cans each time.

 

[Seven Spades]

The last fill up I made was Gibralter (White untaxed) my next fill up will be the channel islands, why pay tax at all if you are on the south coast?

 

[Sandy]

why pay tax at all if you are on the south coast?

I find nipping into Sainsburys on the way down to the boat and filling a couple of 10 ltr jerry cans a lot less time consuming that the 180 NM round trip to Jersey.

 

[[3889]]

Penzance £1.16 for 60/40 split on Friday. A penny more than I paid in Gib last month.

 

[kippers26]

"Rumour" has it at 0.74p per litre.

That Rumour branded fuel is only 69.5p per litre at my local

 

[madabouttheboat]

for 60/40 my last two fills (May and July) were £1.74 and £1.02 per litre. Big difference. The latter was genuinely at 'cost'

 

[rotrax]

Itchen Marine on Wednesday was £1.20 at 60/40 for for 500 litres plus.

I try to use them as they turnover large amounts of fuel and it is fresh.

 

[Seven Spades]

Anyone know the cost in France?

 

[Lightwave395]

A few weeks ago it was around 2 euros / litre in the marina and 1.45 to 1.55 in the local supermarches. There is, of course, no 60/40 split thing