Foredeck light LED bulb

I've bought LEDs from eBay and boat jumbles which proved false economy especially the latter. You have little recourse if they don't work and the bu**station factor especially with masthead lights just isn't worth the small saving.

Definitely worth carefully checking that whatever you get at whatever price is working properly before you come down the mast/put the mast up.

I paid decidedly non-ebay prices to a major (online and store) chandlery for a LED lamp specifically labelled to fit my (Aqua Signal?) tri-colour, but fortunately discovered before I put the mast back up that the lamp orientation was 180 degrees out compared to the original fitting lens. When I took the lamp back to the chandlery the assistant said they'd had previously had similar complaints. :rolleyes: Due to lack of time the mast went back up with an incandescent bulb in the tri-colour.
 
I don’t intend to extend an argument other than say the vast majority of our customers are happy with our products and service standards. Most of the very few returned products are found not to be defective and failure to work results from either voltage deficiencies or faulty fixtures. I’m afraid our current policy is driven by our experience of sending out replacement products and finding so called faulty ones either not being returned or as mentioned returned and found not to be faulty. You chose to dump the faulty lamp and wish to correct potentially defective soldering that’s entirely your choice. Clearly we can’t satisfy everyone hey ho,
Regards

That's fair enough, it is a business decision and you are of course quite free to choose how you handle problems like this.

My business handles things somewhat differently and we always seek to minimise inconvenience to our customers, for example by sending out warranty replacements and a UPS label to return the faulty product we have had close to zero "non returns" in recent years. We have "lost" a few, but we consider the unit production cost of the lost unit as part of our advertising and support budget, and for us, it has worked out. Either way, it is a business decision and I appreciate your business may not function the same as ours.

As promised, I'll investigate the cause when we are ready to haul out in about 3 months and report back. It might be easier to "slot" the AquaSignal bulbholder to allow a degree of rotation to correct the problem. If I decide to return it as defective rather than attempt to rectify the problem myself, I will of course take you up on your offer of returning it for inspection.
 
That's fair enough, it is a business decision and you are of course quite free to choose how you handle problems like this.

My business handles things somewhat differently and we always seek to minimise inconvenience to our customers, for example by sending out warranty replacements and a UPS label to return the faulty product we have had close to zero "non returns" in recent years. We have "lost" a few, but we consider the unit production cost of the lost unit as part of our advertising and support budget, and for us, it has worked out. Either way, it is a business decision and I appreciate your business may not function the same as ours.

As promised, I'll investigate the cause when we are ready to haul out in about 3 months and report back. It might be easier to "slot" the AquaSignal bulbholder to allow a degree of rotation to correct the problem. If I decide to return it as defective rather than attempt to rectify the problem myself, I will of course take you up on your offer of returning it for inspection.

That’s fine I’ll stand by my offer and wish you well running your seemingly much better enterprise. However,
given that you have found the time to respond can you please now take the time to remove the post content below which, irritatingly, I note you have left in place.
I consider your comment about the danbuoy lamp quite untrue and damaging to my business. You are clearly unable in any way to substantiate the widely inaccurate comment published saying you can buy the same product for £1.20. I’m not sure what the GU10 lamp comment is all about, surely, if you could have bought the same lamp as we sell for 1/10th of the price, then why simply didn’t you purchase it?

‘The roughly £9 LED for the danbuoy was supplied in its original packaging, you can buy the same item in the same packaging for £1.20 ... the same 6W GU10 12V light I purchased from them is available for 1/10th of the price on eBay ... I am NOT complaining about their prices, their business model is clearly to source LED lamps and present them to the yachting market at a premium price, saving the hassle of finding the right or wrong thing on eBay”
 
One reservation that I have about using LEDs for lighting the foredeck is that if I look directly at an LED light source it leaves me with no night vision for a couple of minutes at least.
 
If only someone sold luminous deck paint we'd save all this trouble! ;)

They do

https://www.coating.co.uk/glow-in-the-dark-paints/

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...rget-streetlights-use-glow-dark-UV-paint.html
 
That’s fine I’ll stand by my offer and wish you well running your seemingly much better enterprise. However,
given that you have found the time to respond can you please now take the time to remove the post content below which, irritatingly, I note you have left in place.

No problem, unfortunately I was sailing off the Irish coast and with patchy internet connectivity, and the edit period had expired. I have contacted the admin team and it will be removed as soon as edit permission is granted.
 
then don't do it.


Lol, good point.

We find our GU10 to be excellent, it covers the anchor locker and the area where the mooring buoy hopefully is located just off the bows quite nicely. At this point in the excercise, night vision is the least of my worries. Following comments on here, I shall check how well it is standing up to the elements before we haul out this winter.

What would be nice to find is a good quality LED hand lamp. I have an AquaSignal PAR36 that is about 100W of halogen .. and makes a pretty poor impression on the dark, I know there are better alternatives, as I have a decent PAR36 LED landing light on my plane, but it was stupidly expensive ... a PAR36 LED to drop into the AquaSignal handl lamp and produce a good long-throw beam for that fun moment of "looking for things in the dark" when it is raining and blowing 30 knots moment would be a nice upgrade.
 
What would be nice to find is a good quality LED hand lamp. I have an AquaSignal PAR36 that is about 100W of halogen .. and makes a pretty poor impression on the dark, I know there are better alternatives, as I have a decent PAR36 LED landing light on my plane, but it was stupidly expensive ... a PAR36 LED to drop into the AquaSignal handl lamp and produce a good long-throw beam for that fun moment of "looking for things in the dark" when it is raining and blowing 30 knots moment would be a nice upgrade.
As an ex-Mountain Rescue Team Member I am a big fan of headlamps. Perhaps one of the really bright LED ones would suit your requirements?
 
As an ex-Mountain Rescue Team Member I am a big fan of headlamps. Perhaps one of the really bright LED ones would suit your requirements?

I was thinking of something run from the boats power systems, which avoids the problem of torch batteries always being flat when you need them most. I was also thinking of something a little more powerful than the various head torches I have seen, something in the 30 to 50W sort of class ...
 
I was thinking of something run from the boats power systems, which avoids the problem of torch batteries always being flat when you need them most. I was also thinking of something a little more powerful than the various head torches I have seen, something in the 30 to 50W sort of class ...

You’ll be wanting one of these then.......
https://youtu.be/c--5c3Egv4E
 
Interesting ... I have a lot of those 100W chips, I might have a play. Heat is the big problem with those ... the 12V->36V convertor/current source should be easy enough.
 
When I first started yachting, I equipped my little boat with a 12v rechargeable 500 candlepower (or was it 5000?) hand lamp. Coming up the Bristol Channel one dark foggy night we heard some shipping about and so shone it on our sail to make us more visible. It was then that we found the battery on lasted 20 minutes or so! How I wish I'd had a powerful LED one which unfortunately we're only invented 20 years later. AIS and small radar wasn't around either.
 
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