lpdsn
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Quite possibly they were unaware of the collision. It's now on MAIB's list of investigations so presumably they'll do a full analysis of the traffic in the area at the time.
Fatal boat crash off Shoreham
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Quite possibly they were unaware of the collision. It's now on MAIB's list of investigations so presumably they'll do a full analysis of the traffic in the area at the time.
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Champagne Murphy
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Giblets
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Seems to be a bit of confusion as to where the small boat left from. Some reports say Brighton and others say Shoreham.
VicS
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Prima
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Gross Tonnage: 144 :ambivalence:
mainsail1
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There are a number of fishing boats with that name. Not sure it is the one you mention.
VicS
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Well the link shows that it sailed from Shoreham to Grimsby on the day in question. Many others with the same name do that ?
mainsail1
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VicS
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By searching marinetraffic.com for Vertrouwen and examining the details of the vessels found.
mainsail1
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I tried that but the history did not go back as far as the accident unless I have missed a trick?
Prima
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Registered users only for history older than 24 hours
VicS
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I am not a registered user but I can still see that It sailed from Shoreham (GB SHO) to Grimsby ((GB GSY) on 6/7 August and is still in Grimsby
Stork_III
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It says it sailed at 6.27am on the 6/8, arriving at 17.23pm on 7/8 at max recorded speed 11mph. Is it likely to be still 10m off Shoreham at 1.00am on the 7/8?
VicS
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No. By that time it was somehere between Shoreham and Grimsby
The incident occurred early, on the 6th!
But before the time ( 0627) recorded for the Vertrouwen's departure for Grimsby.
As unregistered users we do't know where is was at the time of the incident, No doubt the authorities do!
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Prima
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From the BBC report post #1 dated 6 August 2017
Does this mean that records and time stamps may have been falsified?
It's all been a bit fishy from the start this
VicS
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Prima
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The accident was reported before the boat set off?
Prima
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Oh. You mean the accident occurred before it even arrived in Shoreham. And THEN departed to Grimsby?
ShinyShoe
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It does. But if you do enough digging elsewhere on the interweb you can find that at ~ 07:50 BST it was just off Dungeoness, steaming at 7-8kts, later on steaming at closer to 11kts.
I'm not sure there is AIS from before that. There is no requirement for a vessel that size to be transmitting AIS.
The fisheries protection guys have a non-public tracking service. They will know where it was.
Its 70 land miles from Shoreham to Dungeoness by road, and at sea you need to go round Beachy Head. Lets call it 80 land miles, which is 70NM, Lets assume they steamed at 9kts that would take 7hrs 45 to get the that point off Dungeoness. So time of departure would have been Midnight. Same as the sunk vessel...
