Excellent Security camera for your boat. Solar powered

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have two from this company and they seem very good. The big thing is the solar power so no need to run and wires as wireless for the connection. All you need obviously is internet. This one was about £55 and it is pan a tilt and comes with the solar panel

 

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It depends on WiFi no good on Marina the better ones have a sim in so works independant
Yes but they costs a lot per month. Marina wifi is getting a lot better nowadays. Not having to have power switched on on the boat is the big bonus of this
 

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Aren't they the ones that Which got removed from sale because of Russian originating bots hacking them within minutes of appearing online?
All these cheap cameras and most other IoT devices are inherently a security risk.

Just thin about it.
If you can get to your home camera whilst you are away from home, something must be tunneling through your router's NAT firewall.
And it isn't you tunneling through.

The way all this stuff works is:-
The client (the camera) connects to an external server and makes a connection.
The server can then access the client (camera) however it likes.
It then just takes some unscrupulous software to have been installed in the client to create a link with any of the devices on your home LAN.
Most of these cheap devices are made in China which use Chinese servers to make the connections.
Do you really want to open your private network to this potential abuse?

My systems (home and boat) incorporate two LANs - one Secure LAN for all my computers etc and one Insecure LAN for all the IoT devices.
My Secure LAN can access the Insecure LAN but the Insecure LAN can't access the Secure LAN
That way, I can use these cheap cameras without compromising security.

Most people don't realise this risk.

EDIT - when I say LAN, I mean either wired Ethernet or wireless WiFi
 

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All these cheap cameras and most other IoT devices are inherently a security risk.

Just thin about it.
If you can get to your home camera whilst you are away from home, something must be tunneling through your router's NAT firewall.
And it isn't you tunneling through.

The way all this stuff works is:-
The client (the camera) connects to an external server and makes a connection.
The server can then access the client (camera) however it likes.
It then just takes some unscrupulous software to have been installed in the client to create a link with any of the devices on your home LAN.
Most of these cheap devices are made in China which use Chinese servers to make the connections.
Do you really want to open your private network to this potential abuse?

My systems (home and boat) incorporate two LANs - one Secure LAN for all my computers etc and one Insecure LAN for all the IoT devices.
My Secure LAN can access the Insecure LAN but the Insecure LAN can't access the Secure LAN
That way, I can use these cheap cameras without compromising security.

Most people don't realise this risk.

EDIT - when I say LAN, I mean either wired Ethernet or wireless WiFi
Thanks for the information but I am happy with these cameras
 

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All these cheap cameras and most other IoT devices are inherently a security risk.

Just thin about it.
If you can get to your home camera whilst you are away from home, something must be tunneling through your router's NAT firewall.
And it isn't you tunneling through.

The way all this stuff works is:-
The client (the camera) connects to an external server and makes a connection.
The server can then access the client (camera) however it likes.
It then just takes some unscrupulous software to have been installed in the client to create a link with any of the devices on your home LAN.
Most of these cheap devices are made in China which use Chinese servers to make the connections.
Do you really want to open your private network to this potential abuse?

My systems (home and boat) incorporate two LANs - one Secure LAN for all my computers etc and one Insecure LAN for all the IoT devices.
My Secure LAN can access the Insecure LAN but the Insecure LAN can't access the Secure LAN
That way, I can use these cheap cameras without compromising security.

Most people don't realise this risk.

EDIT - when I say LAN, I mean either wired Ethernet or wireless WiFi

That is what I would do.
 

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My systems (home and boat) incorporate two LANs - one Secure LAN for all my computers etc and one Insecure LAN for all the IoT devices.
My Secure LAN can access the Insecure LAN but the Insecure LAN can't access the Secure LAN
That way, I can use these cheap cameras without compromising security.

Most people don't realise this risk.

EDIT - when I say LAN, I mean either wired Ethernet or wireless WiFi
Is this two LAN's with the same internet connection or two separate connections? If it's one connection, can you describe how you set this up or maybe there's an online guide you used?
 

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Is this two LAN's with the same internet connection or two separate connections? If it's one connection, can you describe how you set this up or maybe there's an online guide you used?

Old Fred is on the Drift a little
 

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Is this two LAN's with the same internet connection or two separate connections? If it's one connection, can you describe how you set this up or maybe there's an online guide you used?
Sorry Bigplumbs - a little drift to help.
This subject is actually quite relevant to your OP.

My setup is this:-
The Internet Service Provider's router forms the "Insecure LAN".
I then add into that LAN another router which creates a second LAN (the Secure LAN)
The Secure LAN has its WAN port connected one of the Insecure LAN ports.
So, for example, all the devices on the Insecure LAN would have their IP addresses in the range of 192.168.0.x
And (again for example) the devices on the Secure LAN would have their IP addresses in the range of (say) 10.0.0.x
The second (downstream router (the Secure LAN Router) has a WAN port that connects to one of the LAN ports on the ISP Router.
Something like this:-

Screenshot_2023-09-28_17-13-33.png

The devices on the Secure LAN can reach the Insecure LAN but devices on the Insecure LAN can't reach the devices on the Secure LAN.

On my system, my downstream router is flashed with OpenWRT which, being Open Source, can be audited/checked to ensure that there are no nasty back doors etc.

Sorry for the thread drift but, as I say IMO, this IS relevant.

I hope that helps people - I believe this is a very important subject.
 
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