Do they want it left UP or DOWN?

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It doesn't apply to the boat heads but why is it that ladies complain that we never leave the seat down and that by not doing so we are being unhygenic?

This has given me consternation for some time. Do they really want it left down when, as we boys know, there are some of us who don't bother to lift it and just pee through the hole in the seat! My wife for one revealed only last night that she didn't realise that there were such "evil" men around. It is because some of us know that such guys exist that I always thought it curious that women moan about the seat always being up. Surely, if this is going on then the interests of hygiene would be better served with the seat left up and only temporarily lowered by a lady immediately prior to her usage thereof? However, peeing by the light of a headtorch alone will, I suggest gentlemen, reveal the great extent to which the accompanying cloud of spray emanates - try it and you'll be surprised. I was the first time.

No, it is really curious as to why the ladies want the seat left down. Is it that they leave it to the very last moment before entering the house of relief and therefore any vital seconds saved pre-performance can be vital? Or is it just a courtesy thing? Do they indeed mean the seat or do they mean the lid AND the seat, in which case they will use up just as much time raising the lid as they would have spent lowering the seat. Of course if the hinges between the seat and the lid are anything less than totally friction free, bringing the seat down COULD have the lid crashing down on their delicate little pinkies within a nanosecond or two.

I'm confused by the whole thing. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Steve Cronin


BTW. I just received some superb problem solving ( a problem not of their own creation) by Andy Laurence at Mailspeed Marine and I would like to publically thank him for this.
 

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Get a Lavac,good toilet and mode of operation eliminates etiquette problems.
Unless your particularly bloody minded and want to stand next to it for a couple of minutes and the vacuum breaks allowing you to leave the seat up.
 

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Nice post. You're right about the spray- people always laughed at me for saying having carpet around a toilet is a bad thing. I also feel the default postion is up. I suppose to make it totally fair, the default position could be seat and lid down, that way you both have to make an effort to lift something up. At present in our house we have the lid and seat down in an effort ot stop our toddling daughter from licking the rim and dipping her hands in the water!

The other nice solution is the public institution loo seats with gaps in the front- keeps everyone happy as long as you don't mind the wee stains. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 

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On our boat if you leave the lid up, the first roll to port shuts it. I reckon that's because all boats are female, and they prefer the lid down.
It's also a strong argument for peeing sitting down in a seaway, as I find holding on while kneeling, holding the lid up and concentrating on what I'm actually supposed to be doing a bit much.
 

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Re: problems sitting down?

You've obviously never sat on a urinal in a gents' public loo (I'm pleased to say), especially the ones in France!!
 

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Reference the spray and splashback issue. Consider trousers. The first time you wear a kilt and go for a pee in a urinal, you realise just how much urine your breeks are expected to soak up in an ordinary day.
I think that kilt hose, apart from making it look as though you actually have calves, is intended to prevent the spray and splash-back from making your shoes squelchy half-way through a wedding.
Of course, by the end of a good wedding, then seat up/down, lid up/down doesn't seem to matter over much.
 

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Why can't we chaps start our own "etiquette lobby" and ask why the ladies don't lift the seats UP when they are finished? Seems only fair and reasonable in this day and age of equal rights!!
 

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When my two sons were quite small, and just able to stand and pee into the loo, a pingpong ball floating in the pan greatly increased the directional control. Suggest you guys practice at home. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Very true that it is extremely unhygienic to cuddle up to your partners legs when you are sitting on the floor and he is in the chair. (This hasn't happened for a VERY long time, I might add).
Agree with Julie, we strongly suggest that men sit and pee on the boat, keeps the heads much sweeter smelling especially in hot climates.
In answer to the question posed by this thread, I would prefer, purely for hygiene reasons, that the seat and lid are left down, (but only after flushing) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
 

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I am glad that this subject has arisen (as it were)

I have noticed that all the females in my family
moan if the seat is left up.
However they all invariably leave the lid up!
Why on earth is that.
Moreover, if I take them to task on this point,
I am being pedantic!!!!!!!!!!

And Julie
re "If all men sat down to pee there would not be a problem"
I have a friend who tried this (it was a VERY cold day)
and created much more of a problem than if he had been standing up!

Regards Briani
 

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Reminds me of an old joke....

2 chaps peeing off the side of the ship at night...

Chap 1 - water's cold tonight

chap 2 - Yeah, & deep

tee hee /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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Excuse my ignorance, I've never worn a kilt, but what is a kilt hose?
Is it a length of hose worn under a kilt? Is it for the same reason that some blokes wear rolled up socks in their pants?
Dan
 
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