DangerousPirate
Well-Known Member
I am not sure what exactly the issue is. I have been looking earlier and tried to figure stuff out, my suspicion is that the barton deck organisers are just .. shoddy? There are angles everywhere but it looks like it should still work. I tried different positions for the blocks at the bottom of the mast and that did little. I think the main issue is between the clam cleat and the deck organiser.
Is there anything I have to do to reduce friction at the clam cleats? If the rope is too small, it won't bite, if it's too big, it wouldn't fit through at all, right? Or do oversized ropes still fit through and it's creating an issue with the halyard?
I swear, every time I sail this boat it's a HUGE effort to get the main up.
For reference: Directly at the mast I can pull on the halyard coming out of the mast and it's really easy to raise it and it falls down like a sack of potatoes - meaning with speed and kawumm. Good stuff. That's how I eliminated any internal issues or issues with the track. I can raise the main to the very top with hand over hand from a deck seating position.
In the cockpit, I can raise maybe half the sail under huge effort for the last bit of it, both hands and foot against something firm to assist me, and the rest I have to painfully winch up as I just can't do more. Once I raised it entirely without the winches, just cause, and it felt harder than a low rep set at the gym.
I am not sure where all I can look for faults, but maybe you know some tricks? And as I say, it's either the barton deck organiser, which spins if I try to spin it by hand but looks like it's seizing when under load. At manual inspection it doesn't squeek when I test it sitting next to it, or anything that would indicate friction. Hence why I think it's maybe just a terrible product that just came with the boat. But Barton usually just cost effective yet still quite good usually. I'd be surprised.
Or maybe the clam cleat: it comes in at a slight angle, so either that, or the halyard is oversized or something. Do you have to service the clam cleats to keep them smooth or something? Maybe my expectations are too high and if you lead lines aft, you'll always fight with friction? Is that maybe it? I don't know really. All my other boats had some issues like that, but I thought it was the mast track. This boat, a maxi 95 btw, has a tidesmarine mast track, which should eliminate any and all friction. I was very happy when I saw it when I bought it.
Edit: I tried uploading pictures but somehow it won't let me do that right now. Will add them later if possible. Might help.
Is there anything I have to do to reduce friction at the clam cleats? If the rope is too small, it won't bite, if it's too big, it wouldn't fit through at all, right? Or do oversized ropes still fit through and it's creating an issue with the halyard?
I swear, every time I sail this boat it's a HUGE effort to get the main up.
For reference: Directly at the mast I can pull on the halyard coming out of the mast and it's really easy to raise it and it falls down like a sack of potatoes - meaning with speed and kawumm. Good stuff. That's how I eliminated any internal issues or issues with the track. I can raise the main to the very top with hand over hand from a deck seating position.
In the cockpit, I can raise maybe half the sail under huge effort for the last bit of it, both hands and foot against something firm to assist me, and the rest I have to painfully winch up as I just can't do more. Once I raised it entirely without the winches, just cause, and it felt harder than a low rep set at the gym.
I am not sure where all I can look for faults, but maybe you know some tricks? And as I say, it's either the barton deck organiser, which spins if I try to spin it by hand but looks like it's seizing when under load. At manual inspection it doesn't squeek when I test it sitting next to it, or anything that would indicate friction. Hence why I think it's maybe just a terrible product that just came with the boat. But Barton usually just cost effective yet still quite good usually. I'd be surprised.
Or maybe the clam cleat: it comes in at a slight angle, so either that, or the halyard is oversized or something. Do you have to service the clam cleats to keep them smooth or something? Maybe my expectations are too high and if you lead lines aft, you'll always fight with friction? Is that maybe it? I don't know really. All my other boats had some issues like that, but I thought it was the mast track. This boat, a maxi 95 btw, has a tidesmarine mast track, which should eliminate any and all friction. I was very happy when I saw it when I bought it.
Edit: I tried uploading pictures but somehow it won't let me do that right now. Will add them later if possible. Might help.
