ribrage
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has anyone got one or have any recomendations as to make model or point me towards a website or company.
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diesel drip feed heaters ???
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ChrisE
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You might want to look at Dickinson's. They make the Newport which has been installed on our boat for the past 3 years and has kept us toasty during the coldest weathers inc -10c in Norway. Like the refleks they have a float valve carburettor. You can buy them from Kurnada or directly from Canada as we did.
eidiohir
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I have a Dickinson which I got from Canada at less than half the price of one from the UK. Its a great bit of kit never gives any trouble and costs buttons to run and you can get the fuel anywhere.
Gumpy
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At the back of the barge I have a sigmar which is not drip feed as such but works well.
I have recently removed from the front of the barge a Kabola Old Dutch
http://tinyurl.com/959psk
It works a treat but have decided to go solid fuel as it cheaper and I have the storage space.
I have recently removed from the front of the barge a Kabola Old Dutch
http://tinyurl.com/959psk
It works a treat but have decided to go solid fuel as it cheaper and I have the storage space.
tudorsailor
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I have a Webasto diesel system that heats water in radiators, and then a fan blows air over the hot radiator into the interior. Works well
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peterb
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Back in the late 60s and early 70s there was a rash of house fires put down to the use of drip-feed oil heaters under draughty conditions. I believe that it led to a redesign of the heaters, but I'm not sure that I would like to use one under heeled conditions.
Gumpy
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I would advise anyone fitting this type of diesel heater to fit a fire valve ( http://tinyurl.com/7smjf5 ) to cut off the supply in case of overheating.
ribrage
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have been looking at the dickson heaters on the link posted here , they seem to fit the bill, one of the comments made was possibly not to be used while heeled , do you use yours whilst sailing ?
thanks for all the replys
thanks for all the replys
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ribrage
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Tudor sailor
thanks for reply we used to have eberspacher on here which was a pain due to its technical nature, so Im looking to fit something simple that runs off diesel and will sit in the saloon without looking like some demented dalek (Dr WHo).
The simpler the better !
thanks for reply we used to have eberspacher on here which was a pain due to its technical nature, so Im looking to fit something simple that runs off diesel and will sit in the saloon without looking like some demented dalek (Dr WHo).
The simpler the better !
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The simplest is probably Refleks with Sigmar next then Dickenson.
As to heeling I dont find it a problem with my Sigmar because any wind strong enough to heel the boat---9 ton gaffer---will blow the flame out !
The main prob will be the wind. Mine really needs a balanced flue, which it is possible to fit. The Dickensons have a fan to assist but I dont know if this helps. The Refleks are commonly used on trawlers in all weathers.
The control valves can be side or front mounted and allow for an overflow---dont be alarmed by this, mine has never needed the overflow but I have a small container under it if required.
It would be interesting to hear from Refleks and Dickenson owners as to problems with wind and heeling.
I chose the Sigmar because it was compact and had a visible flame. It was the smallest heater that satisfied my requirements.
I also have a Webasto for instant heat, I use the Sigmar at anchor for the ambience of the visible flame!
As to heeling I dont find it a problem with my Sigmar because any wind strong enough to heel the boat---9 ton gaffer---will blow the flame out !
The main prob will be the wind. Mine really needs a balanced flue, which it is possible to fit. The Dickensons have a fan to assist but I dont know if this helps. The Refleks are commonly used on trawlers in all weathers.
The control valves can be side or front mounted and allow for an overflow---dont be alarmed by this, mine has never needed the overflow but I have a small container under it if required.
It would be interesting to hear from Refleks and Dickenson owners as to problems with wind and heeling.
I chose the Sigmar because it was compact and had a visible flame. It was the smallest heater that satisfied my requirements.
I also have a Webasto for instant heat, I use the Sigmar at anchor for the ambience of the visible flame!
ChrisE
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Like dylan's refleks the Dickinson has a balanced flue, i.e. with a flap in the flue below deck that equalises the pressure when you get strong downdrafts, the fan is used primarily for lighting the stove but can also be used, to a point, to counteract strong downdrafts.
I've used the heater whilst heeled and like dylan find that it is fine providing that the wind isn't blowing a real hoolie. If I was fitting the heater again I'd probably not put the chimney in the port-side slot as the increased flow through this causes flame outs when going to windward on starboard tack in strong winds. Off the wind, there's no problem.
As far as I'm aware all drip-feed diesel heaters suffer from flame-outs in strong downdraft conditions but these are rare. By way comparison, I can't recall a flame-out whilst anchored or sailing off the wind. The Dickinson has a cut-out if the flame is blown out. Like the refleks the heater is designed for and used by trawlers in all weathers do the technology is well tried and tested.
Like dylan I've also got a blown air system, an eberf**ker, which has now been mothballed, primarily because as well as prefrring the cheery glow of the stove I understand how the Dickinson works and can strip it down and keep it working, whereas the eberf**ker is law unto itself.
I've used the heater whilst heeled and like dylan find that it is fine providing that the wind isn't blowing a real hoolie. If I was fitting the heater again I'd probably not put the chimney in the port-side slot as the increased flow through this causes flame outs when going to windward on starboard tack in strong winds. Off the wind, there's no problem.
As far as I'm aware all drip-feed diesel heaters suffer from flame-outs in strong downdraft conditions but these are rare. By way comparison, I can't recall a flame-out whilst anchored or sailing off the wind. The Dickinson has a cut-out if the flame is blown out. Like the refleks the heater is designed for and used by trawlers in all weathers do the technology is well tried and tested.
Like dylan I've also got a blown air system, an eberf**ker, which has now been mothballed, primarily because as well as prefrring the cheery glow of the stove I understand how the Dickinson works and can strip it down and keep it working, whereas the eberf**ker is law unto itself.
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ianabc
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Dickinson diesel drip feed stove/heaters, use about 5 L per day minimum
Ours is a used nit, cast iron top (good as it does not distort and m,elt as do aluminium stove tops) and I believe ALL modern drip feed Dickinson stoves have safety device built into the metering valve. This is a meltable ceramic type fuse that is altered by heat and the spring loaded mechanism cust off the fule supply shoulod the device heat beyond the designed tempertature.
We added a double stainless steel heater coil inside the burner compartment. This is linked to a small header tank above and to the side of the stove. The header tank has a vehicle type radiator vfill cap as a presure relief valve in adition to a domestic hot water tank safety valve on the header tank. Hot water is supplied through a heat exchanger in a seperate tank.
The system works well in our well insulated 37 foot steel sailboat, 1.5 inches of polyurethane foam throughout above the water line. We use non toxic recreational vehicle anti freeze in the system.
Others have added hot water radiators to the system, BUT the pipes to the radiators must be short and well insulated.
Ours is a used nit, cast iron top (good as it does not distort and m,elt as do aluminium stove tops) and I believe ALL modern drip feed Dickinson stoves have safety device built into the metering valve. This is a meltable ceramic type fuse that is altered by heat and the spring loaded mechanism cust off the fule supply shoulod the device heat beyond the designed tempertature.
We added a double stainless steel heater coil inside the burner compartment. This is linked to a small header tank above and to the side of the stove. The header tank has a vehicle type radiator vfill cap as a presure relief valve in adition to a domestic hot water tank safety valve on the header tank. Hot water is supplied through a heat exchanger in a seperate tank.
The system works well in our well insulated 37 foot steel sailboat, 1.5 inches of polyurethane foam throughout above the water line. We use non toxic recreational vehicle anti freeze in the system.
Others have added hot water radiators to the system, BUT the pipes to the radiators must be short and well insulated.
