SnaxMuppet
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Crossing a channel the rules
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jimbaerselman
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I think common sense must still prevaiil in all circumstances.
'Mr Rower' clearly had the misguided belief of, "I'm a rowing boat, he's a nasty motorboat so he must give way at all costs!"
[/ QUOTE ] I'll agree with the first statement.
The second statement is way out of order . . .
First, the dinghy had probably been hovering around waiting for an opportunity to cross. Unable to see very well (they do row backwards) he saw an opportunity. As he started out, too late he realised there was a moboat coming. Luckily, it wasn't going too fast, so he continued, happy in the knowledge that tha approaching vessel had seen him, and knowing that he was a starboard boat - the stand on vessel - once he'd started to cross.
He's the pedestrian who steps onto the road thinking he wouldn't cause any vehicle to skid . . .
You had the option of stopping. He didn't have the option of back-tracking out of your way.
Come on, lets have a little tolerance on this thread. By all means he made a mistake. Perhaps he was not careful enough. Maybe he was careless . . . but deliberate? 'He's a nasty motor boat boat' - that's paranoid.
I think common sense must still prevaiil in all circumstances.
'Mr Rower' clearly had the misguided belief of, "I'm a rowing boat, he's a nasty motorboat so he must give way at all costs!"
[/ QUOTE ] I'll agree with the first statement.
The second statement is way out of order . . .
First, the dinghy had probably been hovering around waiting for an opportunity to cross. Unable to see very well (they do row backwards) he saw an opportunity. As he started out, too late he realised there was a moboat coming. Luckily, it wasn't going too fast, so he continued, happy in the knowledge that tha approaching vessel had seen him, and knowing that he was a starboard boat - the stand on vessel - once he'd started to cross.
He's the pedestrian who steps onto the road thinking he wouldn't cause any vehicle to skid . . .
You had the option of stopping. He didn't have the option of back-tracking out of your way.
Come on, lets have a little tolerance on this thread. By all means he made a mistake. Perhaps he was not careful enough. Maybe he was careless . . . but deliberate? 'He's a nasty motor boat boat' - that's paranoid.
Searush
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Be careful now, applying commonsense & tolerance will totally undermine the forum!!!
Fire99
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I think common sense must still prevaiil in all circumstances.
'Mr Rower' clearly had the misguided belief of, "I'm a rowing boat, he's a nasty motorboat so he must give way at all costs!"
[/ QUOTE ] I'll agree with the first statement.
The second statement is way out of order . . .
First, the dinghy had probably been hovering around waiting for an opportunity to cross. Unable to see very well (they do row backwards) he saw an opportunity. As he started out, too late he realised there was a moboat coming. Luckily, it wasn't going too fast, so he continued, happy in the knowledge that tha approaching vessel had seen him, and knowing that he was a starboard boat - the stand on vessel - once he'd started to cross.
He's the pedestrian who steps onto the road thinking he wouldn't cause any vehicle to skid . . .
You had the option of stopping. He didn't have the option of back-tracking out of your way.
Come on, lets have a little tolerance on this thread. By all means he made a mistake. Perhaps he was not careful enough. Maybe he was careless . . . but deliberate? 'He's a nasty motor boat boat' - that's paranoid.
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Perhaps i misread something here... So correct me where i'm wrong...
Rower... pulls out into channel.. see's motorboat is dangerously close and still decides to cross??
Im under the belief the rower had the opportunity to stop and wait a few secs till the motorboat had passed and then continue on his way?
If that is the case then i stand by my opinion to the letter. You hear it from all levels of boaters (often on the busy South Coast) where someone decides to stand their ground regardless of the danger they are putting themselves or others in.
Paranoid.. give me break!!
If however i have misinterpreted something then, hey i'm human and i change my plea your honour!
Nick
[ QUOTE ]
I think common sense must still prevaiil in all circumstances.
'Mr Rower' clearly had the misguided belief of, "I'm a rowing boat, he's a nasty motorboat so he must give way at all costs!"
[/ QUOTE ] I'll agree with the first statement.
The second statement is way out of order . . .
First, the dinghy had probably been hovering around waiting for an opportunity to cross. Unable to see very well (they do row backwards) he saw an opportunity. As he started out, too late he realised there was a moboat coming. Luckily, it wasn't going too fast, so he continued, happy in the knowledge that tha approaching vessel had seen him, and knowing that he was a starboard boat - the stand on vessel - once he'd started to cross.
He's the pedestrian who steps onto the road thinking he wouldn't cause any vehicle to skid . . .
You had the option of stopping. He didn't have the option of back-tracking out of your way.
Come on, lets have a little tolerance on this thread. By all means he made a mistake. Perhaps he was not careful enough. Maybe he was careless . . . but deliberate? 'He's a nasty motor boat boat' - that's paranoid.
[/ QUOTE ]
Perhaps i misread something here... So correct me where i'm wrong...
Rower... pulls out into channel.. see's motorboat is dangerously close and still decides to cross??
Im under the belief the rower had the opportunity to stop and wait a few secs till the motorboat had passed and then continue on his way?
If that is the case then i stand by my opinion to the letter. You hear it from all levels of boaters (often on the busy South Coast) where someone decides to stand their ground regardless of the danger they are putting themselves or others in.
Paranoid.. give me break!!
If however i have misinterpreted something then, hey i'm human and i change my plea your honour!
Nick
benjenbav
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I suspect the rower wasn't keeping a proper lookout and pulled out almost into the mobo's path, saw what would have looked like the Queen Mary bearing down on him, did a rapid calculation: press on or stop and then got shouty when the danger had receded.
Lakesailor
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I think you were very perceptive and mindful.
Others may have blown the horn and tried to stop, but perhaps still have, unfortunately, "bumped" him, but then of course helped him back into his boat.
He wouldn't have forgotten that in a hurry.
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Others may have blown the horn and tried to stop, but perhaps still have, unfortunately, "bumped" him, but then of course helped him back into his boat.
He wouldn't have forgotten that in a hurry.
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Fire99
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of course help him back in his boat.. and apologise for dropping him back in the water a couple of times of course /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
oldharry
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Rower is wrong: presumably he assumed that as you were approaching from his port he had right of way. BUT: you were a vessel in a 'restricted channel' as defined by Harbour Master, and 'restricted in your ability to manoever' due to proximity of moored vessels, and approaching reciprocal vessel. He therefore under colregs had a duty to stay clear. He also failed to 'take reasonable steps to prevent an collision' by not looking where he was going.
Fortunately you did all the right things and all was well. One of these days he is going to do it under the bows of a large underpowered raggie who cannot stop or manoever quickly, so will get a soaking.
Fortunately you did all the right things and all was well. One of these days he is going to do it under the bows of a large underpowered raggie who cannot stop or manoever quickly, so will get a soaking.
jimbaerselman
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and 'restricted in your ability to manoever'
[/ QUOTE ] Now, who said anything about a black cylinder being hoisted? Without that signal, how did I know he was constrained in his ability to manouevre? Especially at that speed. I ask you, planing down that fairway! That was a shock /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I know, I know, my reactions are a bit slow nowadays. But come on, I'm not bad for coming on 80. Or was it 70? Anyway, I'm really glad that guy had good brakes.
and 'restricted in your ability to manoever'
[/ QUOTE ] Now, who said anything about a black cylinder being hoisted? Without that signal, how did I know he was constrained in his ability to manouevre? Especially at that speed. I ask you, planing down that fairway! That was a shock /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I know, I know, my reactions are a bit slow nowadays. But come on, I'm not bad for coming on 80. Or was it 70? Anyway, I'm really glad that guy had good brakes.
