Crisis, help urgently needed.

Productive weekend!

When I arrived Friday night, Mark had drained the engine sump and pumped out the gearbox. He had also done a lot of steam cleaning. Judging from the state of my wetsuit, that was pretty necessary!

The rocker covers were off the engine and we proceeded to lift the rocker assemblies. Having researched the gearbox bearing construction with SKF, we were emboldened to withdraw aft the secondary shaft (which we had chickened out of so doing previously). Hoisted out of (rotational) harm's way, we gave the starter motor a blip. The crankshaft rotated. Then a few revs. Emissions from the injector seats as expected. Then a good burst. Very little was actually ejected.

Courage took a back seat at this point and we transferred our attentions to the gearbox. (As previously mentioned, the clutch had seized sometime in the past and stories gleaned roundabouts, suggested it was a long time ago.) The drive plate was secured with 12 bolts all of which were extracted without too much of a struggle. This allowed the assembly of drive plate, clutch, inner shaft (for the oil pump and hydraulic pump) and primary gear to be moved aft. Then, with a fairly complex tackle, we transferred it to the deck.

It seemed prudent to drain the inlet manifold but it was different to the sample engine I had seen probably due to the intercooler incorporated with it,. However, we did coax a small amount of water out using a tyre inflator pump to pressurise it.

The second day was mostly spent shifting the carnage below decks onto the dockside tip-bound.

Loading the gearbox shaft assembly into the van involved some evolutions even Hornblower would have been proud of! It must be around 3cwt.

Time (mine!) will tell whether the clutch will succomb to dismantling and refurbishment.

I have glossed over the big mistake we made with the injectors but will relate the episode if my expert friend judges it caused no damage.
 
All very promising news! keep up with the pictures, they're the real thing we're all waiting with baited breath for! :-)

The one we missed was the majestic return to the surface. As it happened in the dark and as the video man (me) wasn't there, it wasn't to be.

I have suggested to Mark that he sinks her again and then refloats, just for the video record, but he seems reluctant!

She now looks as she did before the drama.
 
Well done to you both. I really thought it was a lot cause. I'd hate to think of he work and effort expended so far with lots more needed. Please keep us updated as to progress.
 
Could you get just one 'drying out' on the slip to patch the leaks? Expanding foam is good, and it loves the wet.

Perhaps when we finish the engine and gearbox restoration we could motor her to the slip or indeed outside against a wall. As the damaged planks(s) are only just below the waterline, it may be possible to heel her and expose the damage. (She will be berthed damaged side out.)

In respect of the foam, Mark had already used that to great effect. Thanks.

I brought the gearbox primary shaft back to my works and have just managed to open p the clutch. As suspected, two of the discs, one splined on the OD and one on the ID, have rusted together solidly. It seems amazing that all that 19 litres of power could be transmitted through just two discs. Maybe there is also a problem with the hydraulics.

The bad twins are number 4 from the RHS.
 
Maybe there is also a problem with the hydraulics.

The bad twins are number 4 from the RHS.

Further to that, the operating piston moved forwards freely with some applied air pressure. Hydraulic pressure engages the clutch (as you would expect), disengagement is by a series of springs. As the clutch was always engaged, it has to be down to the seized discs.

The boat has been moved. The motive power was derived from the dredging arm (like a very long reach digger) on the dredger! Something I would have liked to see. As there was a fair bit of wind, she has not been turned but will be when the wind eases.
 
Just finished reading from cover to cover, so to speak and would like to express a very very well done to you both and any helpers dockside and encouragers on here. From my experience any one buying a dream like this and going for it would never have contemplated throwing the towel in (as suggested by mr Negative and his sidekick) - it's a question of attitude and you both had it in bundles. Good luck for the future.

I'm minded of that song "when the going gets tough, the tough get going"
 
Now for the financial pain!
Clutch plates for the gearbox repair;

"Fritted" (i.e. with Ph Br segments) €78,90
Plain (steel disc) €84.84 ( dearer than the fritted)
Circlip €275.69. WHAT?

These euro prices translated directly into £ by the UK agent.
They don't add up!

The circlip is a ring with normal "squeeze together" holes at the ends but it is soft and died during (brutal) removal.
I think I'll be making a new one!
 
Now for the financial pain!
Clutch plates for the gearbox repair;

"Fritted" (i.e. with Ph Br segments) €78,90
Plain (steel disc) €84.84 ( dearer than the fritted)
Circlip €275.69. WHAT?

These euro prices translated directly into £ by the UK agent.
They don't add up!

The circlip is a ring with normal "squeeze together" holes at the ends but it is soft and died during (brutal) removal.
I think I'll be making a new one!

:)

Everything is expensive as soon as you mention "boat" - a Beneteau dealer recently quoted me more than £80 for a key blank to cut a spare key for our boat. He did admit that it seemed "a bit high" to him! Another dealer offered me a special price of about £30 for a blank from a job lot he had bought!
 
Circlip €275.69. WHAT?
The circlip is a ring with normal "squeeze together" holes at the ends but it is soft and died during (brutal) removal.
I think I'll be making a new one!

Better than making a new one, can you not buy one to the right dimensions from a less insane supplier?

Pete
 
Ah, you'll be wanting the "marine" circlips sir...

"Squeeze together" sounds like an internal circlip? It's probably already crossed your mind, but there are plenty of places that sell standard sizes off the shelf. Worth a quick Internet search.
 
Ah, you'll be wanting the "marine" circlips sir...

"Squeeze together" sounds like an internal circlip? .
Yes it is.

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It's probably already crossed your mind, but there are plenty of places that sell standard sizes off the shelf. Worth a quick Internet search.

No it hadn't! Thanks. I already have a supplier for an infrequent order. Strangely, the original was very soft, so mush so that tapping the closure holes with a screwdriver caused them to break through.

Also I don't understand the similarity between the two plates. €80 is not enormous for them but why is the more complex one, with bonded on Ph Br segments cheaper than the plain steel disc one?
 
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