Cowes LNTM to keep clear of a drone!!!

[Refueler]

If it really bothers you, you need to take up EW. A drone controller and a linear amp would be part of your kit. Try not to get caught.

Doesn't work that way ...... the only 'drones' you can blat out of control are the plain WiFi cheapo kiddies stuff.

The better drones have coded control where the Tx hops freq slots and has digital encoding so that Rx identifies the Tx and responds only to that one. They are 'bound' to each other.
Even DJI which has proprietary control on 2.4 and 5.8 uses system that identifies Tx to Rx and can only be changed by user programming the change.

The systems that you read about for airports etc - basically flood the airwaves to blanket out the Tx to Rx connection.

But one factor that should be appreciated ........... taking my DJI Phantom 3 Pro as example ... it has four 10inch meat cleaver knives spinning as props ... and they can kill or cause serious injury. Your sail if catches one - would not last long .....

 

[INT QRK]

Do you have a Strimmer ? I hate those on a sunday afternoon .... out there enjoying the day and somewhere someone's running a strimmer .....

As to pictures of you or your boat ... why would anyone centre on your boat / you ? Most likely is that your boat is in a group or marina and its the overall shot .... which you can bitch about as much as you like - but is fully allowed. I agree that even I as a Drone operator do not like unnecessary pictures of me or my property - but apart from asking the taker politely to not do it - there's naff all you can do about it.
My pet hate though is people in Airports snapping photos close up which has you identifiable in .... I have often asked takers to not include me ... if they don't agree - I turn face away ... (I have in the past had very good reason to not be photo'd travelling - but that's another matter).

There's a parallel with those who get up tight about people taking photos of their boats on Marine Traffic etc, it all seems a bit precious.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Do you have a Strimmer ? I hate those on a sunday afternoon .... out there enjoying the day and somewhere someone's running a strimmer .....

As to pictures of you or your boat ... why would anyone centre on your boat / you ? Most likely is that your boat is in a group or marina and its the overall shot .... which you can bitch about as much as you like - but is fully allowed. I agree that even I as a Drone operator do not like unnecessary pictures of me or my property - but apart from asking the taker politely to not do it - there's naff all you can do about it.
My pet hate though is people in Airports snapping photos close up which has you identifiable in .... I have often asked takers to not include me ... if they don't agree - I turn face away ... (I have in the past had very good reason to not be photo'd travelling - but that's another matter).

I don't have a strimmer, powered mower or the like.

There are lots of things that are legal/allowed that people don't like - I happen to find drones annoying, I don't like locations that I previously thought were private now being "public" and I don't like their effect on wildlife.

It's a fact of life that one person's legal right to make an annoying buzz can annoy or disturb a lot of people seeking a bit of peace in this noisy, busy world.

Perhaps taking close up, identifying pictures of those operating drones would be suitable and, as you say, entirely legal retribution?

 

[Bristolfashion]

There's a parallel with those who get up tight about people taking photos of their boats on Marine Traffic etc, it all seems a bit precious.

I don't care about photos of my boat for any purpose; it's the loss of my privacy that bugs me. Oh, and a stupid buzzing thing disturbing my peace & quiet.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Doesn't work that way ...... the only 'drones' you can blat out of control are the plain WiFi cheapo kiddies stuff.

The better drones have coded control where the Tx hops freq slots and has digital encoding so that Rx identifies the Tx and responds only to that one. They are 'bound' to each other.
Even DJI which has proprietary control on 2.4 and 5.8 uses system that identifies Tx to Rx and can only be changed by user programming the change.

The systems that you read about for airports etc - basically flood the airwaves to blanket out the Tx to Rx connection.

But one factor that should be appreciated ........... taking my DJI Phantom 3 Pro as example ... it has four 10inch meat cleaver knives spinning as props ... and they can kill or cause serious injury. Your sail if catches one - would not last long .....

That all sounds rather aggressive.

 

[Greemble]

...the only 'drones' you can blat out of control are the plain WiFi cheapo kiddies stuff.

I think those are the type that the complaints here are aimed at.

 

[prv]

I think those are the type that the complaints here are aimed at.

I doubt it - by far the most common out and about are the entry-level DJI drones, not the really cheap toy ones.

I have zero interest in taking pictures of other people with mine, but I’ve got some excellent photos and video of my own boat, including under way. It also proved unexpectedly useful for inspecting masthead gear, identifying a severely chafed fitting that would certainly have failed before I noticed otherwise.

Pete

 

[INT QRK]

That all sounds rather aggressive.

Now you're just being silly, this however

I hate the buzzing annoying things when they are disturbing me, the wildlife and ruining my privacy. For the latter, which is better, catapult or air rifle?

Is pretty unambiguous.

 

[Refueler]

That all sounds rather aggressive.

Not at all ... just explaining Freq Hop and how it defies others to interrupt control.

My last bit : "But one factor that should be appreciated ........... taking my DJI Phantom 3 Pro as example ... it has four 10inch meat cleaver knives spinning as props ... and they can kill or cause serious injury. Your sail if catches one - would not last long ..... "

Is to illustrate that if control can be interfered with - the possible consequences of those four 10" props could be disastrous.

To be plain - there's a lot in media and spread around by various that just is plain BULL !

As to 'buzzing around' .... an outboard motor makes far more sound than a drone .... that radio playing on XXXX's boat along the way more sound ....

I myself respect others privacy and objection to their use - BUT I also know what is reality of them and the bull** that some believe.

I am one of many who go out of their way to demo and have people look at and see the real situation with them. Once they see reality - its amazing how much they realise they were brainwashed by sensationalist media etc.
The biggest realisation comes when they watch the screen and see what the camera actually sees .....

 

[Refueler]

I think those are the type that the complaints here are aimed at.

In fact flyers like myself are fed up with them as Toy Shops sell them and give no guidance at all. For a number of years I was part of a group - LARPAS - in Latvia and we advised Latvian CAA about guidelines and rules for Model flying of all types ... as part of the EU directive.
That has produced a set of rules and Licencing that addresses Drone use - but its still impossible to control the sale and use of those toys.

 

[Refueler]

I doubt it - by far the most common out and about are the entry-level DJI drones, not the really cheap toy ones.

As you know I'm sure - the cheap ones are usually crashing about in gardens or getting lost over the fence as their control systems and range are terrible. The cameras if fitted are low res and rubbish as well.

I have zero interest in taking pictures of other people with mine, but I’ve got some excellent photos and video of my own boat, including under way. It also proved unexpectedly useful for inspecting masthead gear, identifying a severely chafed fitting that would certainly have failed before I noticed otherwise.

Pete

I have completed harbour videos for CA ... I'm West Coast Latvia HLR ... and various for manager friends of their work sites to include in the sales websites etc. The P3P is heavy enough to be stable.
I want to do vids of my boat sailing ... but so far not got around to practicing it. I've had P3S and P3P for a number of years so long overdue to do it.

I too have used for inspection at masthead etc. As long as its reasonably calm day ! Even my heavy P3P can move about a bit if there's a breeze.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Now you're just being silly, this however



Is pretty unambiguous.

That is what we call, on my planet, a joke. I own neither a catapult nor an air rifle.

However, it would seem rather hypocritical to consider an air rifle or catapult aimed at a drone as aggressive, but

My last bit : "But one factor that should be appreciated ........... taking my DJI Phantom 3 Pro as example ... it has four 10inch meat cleaver knives spinning as props ... and they can kill or cause serious injury. Your sail if catches one - would not last long ..... "

As entirely reasonable.

 

[Gixer]

As I have said before, I support all the sensible, considered & controlled uses of drones, but the rest of 'em are annoying.

I was watching a cycling event recently and for a section of the race they had a drone following the riders. The noise was so distracting and watching you totally lost the feeling of the race.

Funny, I did have a drone years ago when they first came out, they're pretty boring to fly after a while...

 

[Bristolfashion]

I've been involved with a bit of drone flying for surveying an anchorage for a pilot guide. I know exactly what they can do.

The amateurs certainly do not always follow all the fancy guidance. And, if one flies right over you, how do you even know if it's filming?

No one has addressed the disturbance of wildlife.

By the way,whilst outboards are often essential, I don't have one. I have a pair of peaceful oars.

 

[INT QRK]

That is what we call, on my planet, a joke. I own neither a catapult nor an air rifle.

However, it would seem rather hypocritical to consider an air rifle or catapult aimed at a drone as aggressive, but


As entirely reasonable.

So threating criminal damage is a 'joke' on your planet, but providing real world information on the dangers of drones is somehow aggressive?

How many moons does your planet have?

 

[Bristolfashion]

Anyway, this thread has been very enlightening both from learning about the legal limits to these things and the attitudes of users. I have to say, it really hasn't improved my attitude to them. Rather than arguing rather pointlessly on a forum, I shall take appropriate action.

 

[Bristolfashion]

So threating criminal damage is a 'joke' on your planet, but providing real world information on the dangers of drones is somehow aggressive?

How many moons does your planet have?

I'm not sure how all this death, injury and sail damage could occur without the user flying extremely aggressively.

And I didn't threaten criminal damage, I made a joke. It would be impossible for me to actually do either of those things as I don't have either piece of gear.

 

[Refueler]

I'm not sure how all this death, injury and sail damage could occur without the user flying extremely aggressively.

No the mention of the injury capability etc. was in response to the posts about interfering with its flight - loss of control ... there is no need in any form for pilot to fly aggressively. If someone was to cause the guys controller to lose connection and the machine was out of control - THEN the potential for injury exists.

And I didn't threaten criminal damage, I made a joke. It would be impossible for me to actually do either of those things as I don't have either piece of gear.

As I explained apart from the gun or the expensive military gear - you have no chance anyway ....

TBH - its not me or others being agressive - from the first post you made here - its been your aggressive posts that have triggered respective responses.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Well, I didn't feel at all aggressive to start with - I just found drones annoying, invasive and concerning because of their effect on wildlife.

I still don't feel aggressive, but I now feel vexed enough to take some appropriate action.

 

[Refueler]

Well, I didn't feel at all aggressive to start with - I just found drones annoying, invasive and concerning because of their effect on wildlife.

I still don't feel aggressive, but I now feel vexed enough to take some appropriate action.

Are you aware that many drones are involved in Wildlife Conservation ?

The number of Hobby Pilots interfering with wildlife is miniscule and like the privacy issue - literally a non-starter and blown up up out of proportion to the actual reality.