Copperplus Antifouling anyone tried it?

A friend of a friend used it and took the company to court.. successfully. Then he had difficulty getting the settlement paid... and went back to court again.... As to the performance of the product I couldn't comment
 
I had Copper Guard professionally applied in 1999. It was worth every penny so far.Based in Gosport, with infrequently used boat, which apparentley makes fouling worse, we stay in all year. After two years in the water, just needed a 20 minute jet wash in the slings. Have jet washed once a year in slings since then. Still looks good as new. I don't know about Copper Plus, but the problems with this type of application I have heard about seem to be DIY applications, and then the legal arguements have been over whether it was applied correctly. As the temperature and humidity parameters are quite exacting, I wouldn't imagine many DIY situations where these could be adequately controlled, and I have always wondered why it was ever on sale for DIY application.
 
i have been told it is easy to apply as long as you read the instructions. I think i would have to take it to a good boat yard to be applied anyway. I also enquired Coppercoat but permanent coatings who make copperplus seemed far better and cheaper. Im not sure who to use! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Not sure if CopperPlus is a permanent expoxy coating like CopperCoat. If you look on Scuttlebut pessimist posted pictures our our hull after 15 months in the water and hardly any use of the boat. We are very pleased. It was not cheap but if its effective for 10 yrs as advertised then we will undoubtedly save money - we were in slings for an hour plus half an hour of professional power washing.

The adhesion looks good - it was professionally in a temperature controlled shed by Baltic Wharf Boatyard. SnowLeopard used the same product and has areas peeling off - this could be the distances the boat has travelled but I wonder if it is more likely that his was applied outdoors in variable conditions.

However there is a mention in the new products section of one of the IPC mags (? PBO ? YM) this last month of a new clear product which looks as though its easy to apply and a fraction of the price of the copper products - bio-based I believe but maybe wrong. Anyway we both read the bit and wondered if we'd wasted a lot of money so it might be worth a look.
 
Ok will have a look. is it silicone based? Alot of new silicone products on the market. Copperplus is a permanent antifouling lasting up to 10years+. Hence the company is called permanent coatings. hehe /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
They may well have changed the formula over the years. I remember back in the mists of time either Copperguard or Copper Bot had one duff batch of stuff sold to the DIY market. Then it seemed to be sorted out.

I remember when I looked into having applied to the old tub the thing that made me go for the professional application was the temperature and humidity requirements in the small print which I thought I would not be able to sufficiently control.
I used a yard down in Plymouth at Mountbatten. The guy who owned the yard took me round his hangers showing me various boats with coatings he had applied of various age which all looked good.

His thought was that it was likely to exceed the ten year lifespan that was being predicted, and certainly my experience would confirm that opinion.

We had a protective epoxy coating put on the hull at the same time (3 coats of epoxy barrier paint and then two coats of copperguard) so as a lot of yard costs are in the labour of the preparation having the Copperguard applied made very little difference in terms of extra cost. He offered the Copperguard as standard on the boats he built.

By the way. Much is made of the recommendation that it all has to be sanded down each year, but we have never done this. We simply use a very stiff broom when jet washing and that has been adequate for our situation.
 
Pass ! Of course I now can't find the latest mags (expect HWMBO has squirreled them away) and a search of the YBW site for reports returns sweet FA on antifouling.

Perhaps another forumite with a better memory, or more organised mag storage, can provide some more details ? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Ok i think i will choose copperplus/guard (permanent coatings. You got your boat done in plymouth? near where i live! do u know the name of the yard? Was it safe guard osmosis treatment you used first?
 
Hi boating_ladette
Interesting you should mention Permanent Coatings, I was only looking at the bill (tidying up all my receipts and invoices for the last tax year) for buying and applying their coatings last night.
I put a post on here a couple of weeks ago saying that I had been pleased with it so far, but its really too early for me to tell whether it works for as long as they suggest. If anyone is interested I will report back in another year or so, but you'll have to remind me
When I purchased my new boat back in Sept 04 and as part of the pre-purchase survey, I had the hull slurry blasted to reveal any nasties (so I was working from a pretty good smooth finish on the hull i.e. no flaking bits of antifoul still hanging on in places), I decided, upon the recommendation of a guy called Adrian Baker (a one man band called Advanced Osmosis Technologies) who operates out of Southampton to use their coating system and have him apply it.
The reason was that I didnt have the time to antifoul yearly nor the inclination to have the boat out of the water and the assoc costs for weeks, which, knowing me, would turn into months on end (b4 I could find the time to do it myself)
I think Adrian was keen to try it himself on a boat and use me as a guinea pig, anyway he firstly sanded down the hull to acheive a uniform smooth finish, then applied 2 coats of their epoxy coating and finally 2 coats of copperplus. I was a little worried about the stuff not curing properly as it would now have been mid Dec, but I was assured it was OK. Went back into the water about a week later (22nd Dec) and back to my mooring in the IOW where the boat has been lying unused up until a couple of weeks ago when it was lifted out for some work on one outdrive. I wasnt there at the time, but apparently quite a few of the locals were keen to know what had been applied. When I was in the pub there, I was again asked by a number of people what it was. Island Harbour in the Isle Of Wight is a marina with a lock, it is brackish water and the water temp is quite high (I am at the far end away from the lock and it gets quite shallow) so I would have expected a lot of growth, but a simple pressure wash was apparently all it took. I would have liked to have seen it myself but couldnt make it there till the following week. The hull looks as good as when the coating was initially applied and has adhered well (nothing flaking anywhere).
From the point of view of maintenance, apparently all that is required is a pressure wash each year and if the coating starts to lose its effectiveness, then just use a scouring pad over it and then back in the water.
The plan is that this will save me money in the long term, each year I can have a lift and hold for just an hour or so just to pressure wash and change anodes.
Hope this helps
 
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