Cookers!

[nicho]

The one big gripe Mrs Nicho has about our Bav 36 is the cooker - our last boat a motor cruiser, had an all electric set up including a microwave, powered by a genset when no shore power was available. Now, the current boats oven is no different than those found on many other AWB's, but it is not exactly 'upmarket'. It has two burners, a grill and an oven (not thermostatically controlled, but it does have a rather crude temperature guage) I've looked in chandlers all over, and have yet to find one any different. It looks like they all come out from the same manufacturer (I suppose you could call them ASSC's - average stainless steel cookers - sorry!)

My question, has anyone ever found a really good gas cooker ( I don't think I want to go to diesel or paraffin unless you know different), one with spark ignition, an oven temperature controlled by a thermostat, that will sit in the same size hole as the current ASSC in situ. Cost needs to be reasonable, but I don't mind paying more than the normal £350/450. Oh, and will the Fray Bentos taste any better for it?.

Any advice would be welcomed

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[zefender]

Agree entirely! Boat cookers are very crap generally. I think the Bav one is Techimpex made with a bav logo on the front. Very tricky to clean and mine has gone rusty after only 3 years. I think the Calor site lists quite a few better ones. Try http://www.calormarineshop.co.uk/acatalog/Marine_Cookers.html - sorry about not making a live link. Make sure you check the size fits though. There are couple that look possibly better but the Techimpex seems to be mid range (shock, horror!)

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[Robin]

Force 10, bit deeper than the usual but similar width. Spark ignition, thermostat oven, one big and one std burner, flame failures on all. The grill is in the top of the oven, the oven door opens fully and slides under the cooker out of the way. Comes with gimbals, fiddle rail and pot clamps. But it costs - I cannot remember exactly, it may have been £850 but it came with copious nookie points!

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[Talbot]

Two manufacturers meet your requirements:

Taylors - the RR of cookers, but their prices are well outside your spec.

SMEV - A reasonably priced cooker with all the bells and whistles - def worth a look. If one like these had been available when I last upgraded, this would have been my choice.

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[BlueSkyNick]

Ummmm, nookie points on a cooker - wouldn't they be a bit uncomfortable, especially when its hot?

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[boatless]

I'll second Robin on the Force 10. Closest thing I've used to a catering stove. Top quality.

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[Robin]

/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif We had looked seriously at a new SO 40 and the deal discussed amongst other things was they would swap the standard naf cooker for the Force 10 she had seen at the Calor Centre stand at SBS. Thus when we went instead for the S L 41 it became ''Yes I really like this boat BUT only if you replace the cooker with the Force 10...'' It is not so much in the words themselves, more the look on her face....

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[BlueSkyNick]

I hope the information you have gleaned on this thread is not going to be passed on to other SWMBO's ......!!!

<hr width=100% size=1>It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.

 

[tcm]

ooh no, we can't have this. The whole idea of saily boats is they are crap and awful, to heighten the feeling of existing under near-impossible survival conditions - even when you're in a marina. I am afraid that you are condemned to a lifetime of lumbering over to the calor gas dump to replace one rusty bottle that feels a bit empty (but not quite) with another rusty bottle (that feels not quite full) , then return to boat and shouting at each other from opposite ends of the boat "try it now!" and "no, still the same!" and "what about the other switch!" and "yes, i've tried that one too! - oh er, that one..." and then the matches fall apart.

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[tome]

We have a SMEV 4 burner cooker which is much better made than our last (Plastimo Neptune 2000 2 burner). About £650 I think. It has a useful gimbal lock which stops the contents of the oven flying out when opened.

You'd need some tiny pans to make use of all 4 burners with the fiddles attached.

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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

wow force 10 cookers are expensive, prolly the dogs danglies but expensive.

We bought a Nelson Spinflo 2 years ago and have never looked back. SWMBO has done a fair bit of baking on board, that's right, baking. She really likes cooking, her mom is a chef.

So far everything about the cooker has been brilliant and it still looks new. The only thing we did was to get a bigger grill pan as the one supplied was tiny. But this cooker makes good toast, that is the crucial test. It also has a thermostatically controlled oven.

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hope this helps

Ah you said ignition, it does not have this, but they always fail, even on home burners and always cost loads to put right, I guess KISS applies here.

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[salamicollie]

I'll second the Nelson, SWMBO swears by it (rather than at it the case of the previous vanessa!) wouldn't break the budget at about £450

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[Gerry]

I have 10 year old Taylors gas stove and it is fantastic. Everything you could ever want-Domestic size oven, decent grill, two burners and double warming plate/griddle. Yes they are very expensive but there is a guy on the south coast John Gardner who sells reconditioned ones. Can't find his number but he often advertises in the small ads in the back of the sailing mags. Bought a reconditioned parraffin oven for daughters boat and it has been excellent, cannot recommend him highly enough.
If you can stretch to one I am certain you won't be disappointed.

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[milltech]

I've inherited a Neptune 2000 and I think it's rubbish. It is new rubbish so I haven't changed it yet but it seems to cook unevenly in the oven and the massive grill plate simply cremates the middle four inches and leaves the rest to warm gently.

Oh, and it rattles a lot.



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[nicho]

Thanks everyone - some great help. Looks like the Force 10 is in pole pos'n at present.

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[AndrewB]

Does this imply Mrs Nicho is A-OK with the Bav 36 if you get the cooker right? Seem to recall some grief surrounding the Sealine a while back.

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[nicho]

Andrew,

Mrs Nicho loves her Bav 36, and she loved her Sealines as well. What she doesn't like though is too much heeling (thinks its a male macho thing), so I spend some time ensuring we do not heel over too much (seems to go just as fast by the way!). The only problem she had with any of the Sealines was with our F33 - it was fine when we had it on the thames, but once we brought it down to the South Coast, she felt it was "too tippy", and felt as if she was going to fall off the flybridge. This is why we swapped for the S37, lower, and in her eyes much more secure. She felt secure enough on that, to usaully fall asleep on longer, cross channel trips!

On a sailing boat, the "tippyness" is not so exaggerated due to being relatively low to the water, so as time passes, she is getting much more tolerant.

I did read an article somewhere by a medical man which basically said there is something in womans "make up" that makes them dislike heeling - can't remember the detail, but judging from the number of skippers on the forum who have said their better halves also hate heeling, perhaps there is something in it?

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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

Does she mind it do much if she is helming, or any SWMBO, is it control or the actual heeling that is the problem.



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[BrendanS]

Def the heeling. My SWMBO (will probably disagree if she sees this) was put off boating by heeling of saily boats in days gone by. She's more happy with motor boat trips. A bit

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[AndrewB]

Can't be all SWMBO's as what mine seems to enjoy best about sailing is to go staggering along with the lee rail well under, getting nowhere. I get the spoilsport treatment if I dare suggest we might go faster if we reefed. Significantly though, she doesn't ever offer to do the reefing.

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