ghostlymoron
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Is this still going on? SHID
Converting a Continental LPG regulator to Calor,can it be done?
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Quandary
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Yep, some guys are still patiently trying to talk sense to him, though I suspect they have realized the score by now. The last long long thread was mildly amusing, this one is just a repetitive rant but if it explains the importance of gas safety to any spectators it will have served a purpose.
dom
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Agreed, the "Committee... thread" had more interesting sub-plots and much more colourful characters
Nicholas123
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Do you guys have a link showing this gear,can it be connected directly to a Calor Propane or Butane bottle? I would like to way all this up in relation to two Propane & Butane regulators of the less than £10 variety that can be bought on ebay.......with associated pipe work. :encouragement: Thanks in advance & also for your continued patience.
Nicholas123
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It did no harm to anyone & as far as I know is still going strong.
Nicholas123
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& therein lies the rub incidentally.I come from a background in precision engineering where everything is standardized & you have BSI/International Standards Organisations etc etc (not to mention the metric system & one of the many advantages of joining the EU/our continental brothers etc etc) & yet here in the Gas Industry anything goes.How has this come about?
You would think that with something as potentially explosive (quite literally) universal standards would be crucial would'nt you?Nicholas123
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Sorry is someone forcing you to take part?
Nicholas123
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What a conceited prat! If you don't like it no one is forcing you to come here are they?
Nicholas123
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I'm sure those without a technical background & the experience to understand these issues would find it boring.The future is in your own hands,go & get involved in something more up your street like East Enders!
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vyv_cox
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My past two vans have been equipped with Gaslow equipment. They specialise in refillable autogas bottles and associated kit. I doubt if you will buy much of it for £10. BES sell more general gas equipment.
VicS
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The links have already been given. In particular I refer you to the one to Hayward Engineering's GasBOAT site given quite early in the thread and the sites from which I gleaned information for you on adapters.
If you want interchangeability between butane and propane and also with many foreign cylinder types the way forward IMO is a bulkhead mounted 30mb regulator, a high pressure pigtail and connectors for the bottles you might use.
It may also be worth checking out the GasLow website
While you are "developing" your system the addition of an Alde bubble leak detector would be a step forward from your use of a high pressure gauge in confirming the gas tightness of your system.
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If it helps Nicholas123 this is what I am just about to instal, from the LHS: so called marine regulator, bubble tester which will tell if any leaks have developed by pressing down on the red top, a Clesse Valve which detects both loss of pressure and excess flow and shuts off the gas supply if either condition is met.
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VicS
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Just to add that the relevant standard for regulators is BS EN16129, which was published in August 2013, and supersedes EN12864 and EN13786.
Annex D of EN16129 refers to caravans, motor caravans and fresh water boats, while Annex M refers to sea water boats
The main points of Annex M are:
Your choice . An annex D caravan regulator or an Annex M marine regulator.
Annex D of EN16129 refers to caravans, motor caravans and fresh water boats, while Annex M refers to sea water boats
The main points of Annex M are:
- Material in contact with the atmosphere shall be suitably corrosion resistant. In particular this includes internal components above the diaphragm.
- The vent shall be on the edge of the diaphragm, in a suitable location and of suitable size to drain water which may collect on the diaphragm.
- It shall incorporate an over-pressure relief device, the vent shall be provided with a pipe connection facing downward.
Your choice . An annex D caravan regulator or an Annex M marine regulator.
GHA
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Which is where many on here disagree with you. Looking at a corroded 30 year old gas regulator and thinking it is OK isn't something which comes naturally to most people.
VicS
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Are but they are not highly qualified gas and precision engineers trained by British Aerospace.
Keith-i
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Just out of interest, what did you use to seal the thread on the outlet from the regulator. I've just installed a very similar setup and used Clessetite but wasn't quite sure if that was the most appropriate product given the slightly loose fit of the connector.
lpdsn
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We had those too. The standing joke was that they'd mill half a kilo of Titanium to make a half inch screw. There was a bin for the scrap Ti.
VicS
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You get a lot of titanium in half a kilo!
lpdsn
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Obviously the jokes exaggerated a wee bit, but the scrap bins were often full. The company used to recycle it. And on the way to the US once for one job I was asked to courier a package. I took the paperwork to customs and they insisted on opening it. Four screws valued at £150. And that was a long time ago. Apparently we were far cheaper than the American defence contractors.
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To be honest I don't remember but there are flat washers, gas approved thread sealant and of course the compression fitting on the end. The parallel threads bottom out against a seal (dowty washer or fibre washer) and the tapered threads I used the thread sealant. I don't use any sealant or PTFE type tape on compression fittings, no PTFE tape used at all. It still has to be connected and tested.