Converting a Continental LPG regulator to Calor,can it be done?

vyv_cox said:
My past two vans have been equipped with Gaslow equipment. They specialise in refillable autogas bottles and associated kit. I doubt if you will buy much of it for £10. BES sell more general gas equipment.
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Who are BES? That was my guess that we are talking about expensive specialised equipment.
Meanwhile on the Continuant pieces of equipment like my universal Propane/Butane regulator are standardised & they do not have this complexity :ambivalence:
 
Nicholas123 said:
Who are BES? That was my guess that we are talking about expensive specialised equipment.
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No! One of the least expensive gas and plumbing suppliers out there, but with a good reputation and regularly recommended on these forums.

Google will find them for you but their website is not one of the easiest to find your way round.
 
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Nicholas123 said:
Who are BES? That was my guess that we are talking about expensive specialised equipment.
Meanwhile on the Continuant pieces of equipment like my universal Propane/Butane regulator are standardised & they do not have this complexity :ambivalence:
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Google is your friend for BES.

30mB regulators are not complex. Gaslow is specifically for motorhomes and caravans using Autogas. Not applicable to yachts.
 
VicS said:
The links have already been given. In particular I refer you to the one to Hayward Engineering's GasBOAT site given quite early in the thread and the sites from which I gleaned information for you on adapters.

If you want interchangeability between butane and propane and also with many foreign cylinder types the way forward IMO is a bulkhead mounted 30mb regulator, a high pressure pigtail and connectors for the bottles you might use.

It may also be worth checking out the GasLow website

While you are "developing" your system the addition of an Alde bubble leak detector would be a step forward from your use of a high pressure gauge in confirming the gas tightness of your system.
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I don't want or need all that complexity Vic.I like to keep things as simple as possible & a direct comparison to the Propane/Butane regulator that I have already got would be the way forward.It is almost identical to the ones you can buy on ebay for less than ten quid so their is no excuse,just complications imposed by Calor Gas & other suppliers who want a captive market aided & abetted it seems to me by the lack of universal standards in this Country today. :disgust:

The whole things a racket & ComradRed's post on the dodgy so called specialized marine regulators also illustrates this.
 
BlowingOldBoots said:
If it helps Nicholas123 this is what I am just about to instal, from the LHS: so called marine regulator, bubble tester which will tell if any leaks have developed by pressing down on the red top, a Clesse Valve which detects both loss of pressure and excess flow and shuts off the gas supply if either condition is met.

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If I could afford that I'd probably also have a modern boat worth hundreds of thousands old boots.I am tempted to buy that just as a work of art to hang on my wall ;)
 
Nicholas123 said:
If I could afford that I'd probably also have a modern boat worth hundreds of thousands old boots.I am tempted to buy that just as a work of art to hang on my wall ;)
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Thanks, I am still using the regulator that was on the boat when I bought it 8 years ago, it has had a pretty rough life in a damp locker, still working. The main reason for the change is that the copper pipe hidden behind panels was heavily corroded due to sitting in water. It had green scale that just flakes off leaving very thin walled pipe. I just assumed after that that the whole lot needed to be replaced. I bought the bits over a period of time so it was not a big one off hit at the time. The wood is just a bit of old oak flooring. Around £75 for all the bits and bobs and self assembled.
 
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Nicholas123 said:
I don't want or need all that complexity Vic.I like to keep things as simple as possible & a direct comparison to the Propane/Butane regulator that I have already got would be the way forward.It is almost identical to the ones you can buy on ebay for less than ten quid so their is no excuse,just complications imposed by Calor Gas & other suppliers who want a captive market aided & abetted it seems to me by the lack of universal standards in this Country today. :disgust:

The whole things a racket & ComradRed's post on the dodgy so called specialized marine regulators also illustrates this.
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What could be simpler than a single 30mb regulator, suitable for butane or propane and the connector((s) to fit your own choice of cylinder(s)

I dont understand why a highly qualified and experienced engineer finds this concept so complex.

Cut out all these stupid and unnecessary rants. We are not interested in reading them over and over again. Concentrate on the task of putting together a simple, safe and easy to use gas system!
 
VicS said:
What could be simpler than a single 30mb regulator, suitable for butane or propane and the connector((s) to fit your own choice of cylinder(s)

I dont understand why a highly qualified and experienced engineer finds this concept so complex.

Cut out all these stupid and unnecessary rants. We are not interested in reading them over and over again. Concentrate on the task of putting together a simple, safe and easy to use gas system!
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If you are aware of a single regulator that is suitable for both Propane & Butane + connection pieces that are easily interchangeable by all means post them because to date I have not seen them.For my money so far individual regulators costing less than a tenner on ebay are the best solution even though that means snipping off bits of hose.
 
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Nicholas123 said:
If you are aware of a single regulator that is suitable for both Propane & Butane + connection pieces that are easily interchangeable by all means post them because to date I have not seen them.For my money so far individual regulators costing less than a tenner on ebay are the best solution even though that means snipping off bits of hose.
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Kinnel, one was posted way back in post #12
 
Nicholas123 said:
I have a pretty good combined Propane & Butane regulator with a gauge on it that came with the boat & it is marked "FAHRZEUGREGLER NICHE IN GESCHLOSSENEN RAUMEN VERWENDEN" on the back whatever that means.

The trouble is that it has a flat face with a 7mm spigot on it rather than the type that can be connected to a Calor bottle either propane or Butane.I did have it connected to a Butane bottle using a bit of rubber pipe to pad it out but it was'nt very satisfactory & now I intend to convert entirely to Propane it is simply impossible.
Is it possible to buy some sort of junction conversion piece anybody know?
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I would just contact Socal in Southampton, they have every propane or butane connector under the sun and Peter Spreadborough is their top guru who answers questions in PBO magazine.
 
vyv_cox said:
Have to agree that post #12 offers exactly what is needed. Even if the OP is determined to use his antique regulator the hose and fittings would connect to it.
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In post #228 (yes, we really have passed 228 posts), he says ;

"If you are aware of a single regulator that is suitable for both Propane & Butane + connection pieces that are easily interchangeable by all means post them because to date I have not seen them."

That is precisely what the item in post #12 is.
 
Nicholas123 said:
If you are aware of a single regulator that is suitable for both Propane & Butane + connection pieces that are easily interchangeable by all means post them because to date I have not seen them.For my money so far individual regulators costing less than a tenner on ebay are the best solution even though that means snipping off bits of hose.
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Socal have 30mb dual fuel regulators suitable for both butane and propane, hoses and connectors for both types of gas cylinder (and many others)

BES have 30mb dual fuel regulators of the type ( Annex D ) used in " Leisure vehicles" at somewhat lower prices than Socal's prices for Marine regulators. They also have suitable hoses, with a W20 nut at each end, although they may not have the full range of cylinder connectors.
 
vyv_cox said:
Have to agree that post #12 offers exactly what is needed. Even if the OP is determined to use his antique regulator the hose and fittings would connect to it.
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I even found adaptors and the special washers for his continental regulator that will enable him to fit it directly to butane or propane bottles
 
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