steve_cronin
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Re: So...
tell that to their dogs, women and cars.
Steve Cronin
tell that to their dogs, women and cars.
Steve Cronin
Codene banned in Greece...!
- Thread starter keelbolt
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steve_cronin
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Re: primitive Greek health care
Belgium?
Um.
Steve Cronin
Belgium?
Um.
Steve Cronin
steve_cronin
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Re: So...
i will agree with that.
Steve Cronin
i will agree with that.
Steve Cronin
steve_cronin
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Re: So...
Beam me up Scotty!
Steve Cronin
Beam me up Scotty!
Steve Cronin
Oliveoyl
New member
Re: Codeine in Belgium
We've got some of that that hanging around at home, but honestly thought it was being phased out, at least over the counter.
Re the extract about giving opiates to under 18s, I'm sure I dosed my kids with stuff that contained codeine 20-odd years ago, and they're not junkies now.
Re cough medcine - a pharmacist friend ( married to a Greek doctor) knowe how to extract the opiate from cough medcine.
Re drugs in general - think I'll just stick to tobacco and G+T - no problem with customs
We've got some of that that hanging around at home, but honestly thought it was being phased out, at least over the counter.
Re the extract about giving opiates to under 18s, I'm sure I dosed my kids with stuff that contained codeine 20-odd years ago, and they're not junkies now.
Re cough medcine - a pharmacist friend ( married to a Greek doctor) knowe how to extract the opiate from cough medcine.
Re drugs in general - think I'll just stick to tobacco and G+T - no problem with customs
tgpt21
Member
Re: Absolutely NOTHING to do with your post but...
Yes two years out and I think this is the first time I have thought about work! This sailing/yachting lark just takes you away from the real world.
Yes two years out and I think this is the first time I have thought about work! This sailing/yachting lark just takes you away from the real world.
pollygonforty
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Re: So...
please please get a life I have lived ,worked ,cruised in Greece for fifteen years I have never ever heard of anybody having their medical kit checked,You would be amazed at what is available over the counter in Greek pharmacies,and cheap too,remember it is you living in the "police state"and are terrified by beaurocracy.
Come out and enjoy it ,the sense of freedom will amaze you.Dont bring too many with you tho ,we don't want it to get too crowded.
please please get a life I have lived ,worked ,cruised in Greece for fifteen years I have never ever heard of anybody having their medical kit checked,You would be amazed at what is available over the counter in Greek pharmacies,and cheap too,remember it is you living in the "police state"and are terrified by beaurocracy.
Come out and enjoy it ,the sense of freedom will amaze you.Dont bring too many with you tho ,we don't want it to get too crowded.
pollygonforty
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Re: So...
Seve where are you getting your information from ? My wife was diagnosed by local GP with severe abdominal problem,next day she was addmitted into hospital after having blood test urinal tests etc etc with results on the same day!!! subsequently had to undergo major operation in Athens hospital unbelievably efficient,no MRSA by the way ,thankfully total recovery and not that it is important total cost ?130 yes that does say 130 euros for the CAT scan
Seve where are you getting your information from ? My wife was diagnosed by local GP with severe abdominal problem,next day she was addmitted into hospital after having blood test urinal tests etc etc with results on the same day!!! subsequently had to undergo major operation in Athens hospital unbelievably efficient,no MRSA by the way ,thankfully total recovery and not that it is important total cost ?130 yes that does say 130 euros for the CAT scan
ccscott49
Active member
Re: So...
What the eff did I say?? I have a life, a great one!!!
What the eff did I say?? I have a life, a great one!!!
Davy_S
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Re: So...
What the eff did I say?? I have a life, a great one!!!
I think his finger slipped and it was probably intended for Steve /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
What the eff did I say?? I have a life, a great one!!!
I think his finger slipped and it was probably intended for Steve /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
charles_reed
Active member
Re: Codeine banned in Greece...!
Yes codeine can only be sold under prescription in the majority of EC countries, but have yet to hear of any yacht being "done" for having it in their medical kit.
I've all three of the opiate-based analgesics in my medicine chest.
I had great difficulty in Monfalcone negotiating the purchase of some co-codamol.
Yes codeine can only be sold under prescription in the majority of EC countries, but have yet to hear of any yacht being "done" for having it in their medical kit.
I've all three of the opiate-based analgesics in my medicine chest.
I had great difficulty in Monfalcone negotiating the purchase of some co-codamol.
ccscott49
Active member
Re: Codeine banned in Greece...!
Never had any problem getting Co-Codamol (or whatever they are called in each country) in France, Spain, Greece, Italy or Portugal, it is my prefered painkiller.
It contains Codiene Sulphate, not Dihydrocodiene.
Never had any problem getting Co-Codamol (or whatever they are called in each country) in France, Spain, Greece, Italy or Portugal, it is my prefered painkiller.
It contains Codiene Sulphate, not Dihydrocodiene.
charles_reed
Active member
Dihydrocodiene
or DF118, is sold as 30mg or 60mg tablets, it's seldom mixed with any other drug.
Co-codamol in the UK is usually 8mg of codiene phosphate to 400mg of paracetemol - it's freely available in the UK, but since February of 2007, can only be obtained under prescription in most EC countries who have legislated the Commission directive.
The only two, which I know for a fact, have done so are Italy and France.
Your experiences may have been overtaken by events.
or DF118, is sold as 30mg or 60mg tablets, it's seldom mixed with any other drug.
Co-codamol in the UK is usually 8mg of codiene phosphate to 400mg of paracetemol - it's freely available in the UK, but since February of 2007, can only be obtained under prescription in most EC countries who have legislated the Commission directive.
The only two, which I know for a fact, have done so are Italy and France.
Your experiences may have been overtaken by events.
Ken_Irby
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In the UK you can buy codeine + paracetamol 'over the counter' as 8mg + 500mg
In France you can buy 20mg + 400mg over the counter
In Italy you cannot buy any med containing codeine without a prescription
In the UK, the 'strong' codeine + paracetamol prescribed by doctors is 30mg + 500mg
Go figure!
I doubt whether you would have any great problem carrying modest quantities of over the counter meds in from another EU country and, of course, you may carry any reasonable amount of prescribed meds .... 30 days at least, or more.
In France you can buy 20mg + 400mg over the counter
In Italy you cannot buy any med containing codeine without a prescription
In the UK, the 'strong' codeine + paracetamol prescribed by doctors is 30mg + 500mg
Go figure!
I doubt whether you would have any great problem carrying modest quantities of over the counter meds in from another EU country and, of course, you may carry any reasonable amount of prescribed meds .... 30 days at least, or more.
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Re: Dihydrocodiene
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The only two, which I know for a fact, have done so are Italy and France.
Your experiences may have been overtaken by events.
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Not a fact.
I bought a pack of 20mg + 400mg in France today, and have bought several packs over the last nine months. No probs, it is an OTC (P) medicine. And in the UK the OTC (P) preparation is 8mg + 500mg.
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The only two, which I know for a fact, have done so are Italy and France.
Your experiences may have been overtaken by events.
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Not a fact.
I bought a pack of 20mg + 400mg in France today, and have bought several packs over the last nine months. No probs, it is an OTC (P) medicine. And in the UK the OTC (P) preparation is 8mg + 500mg.
pmyatt
New member
Re: So...
Your experience is markedly similar to mine. Is it possible that, like me, you are beyond a certain age; in which case the NHS has no desire to save you - you are supposed to die and stop costing the country money.
Your experience is markedly similar to mine. Is it possible that, like me, you are beyond a certain age; in which case the NHS has no desire to save you - you are supposed to die and stop costing the country money.
lille_bee
New member
Re: So...
In UK pharmacies, you can also buy without a prescription, a slightly stronger Co-codamol, namely Solpadeine max, which contains 12.8mg Codeine and 500mg Paracetamol; You can also buy Paramol, which contains 7.46mg of dihydrocodeine and 500mg paracetamol... all OTC (P).
Go figure!
In UK pharmacies, you can also buy without a prescription, a slightly stronger Co-codamol, namely Solpadeine max, which contains 12.8mg Codeine and 500mg Paracetamol; You can also buy Paramol, which contains 7.46mg of dihydrocodeine and 500mg paracetamol... all OTC (P).
Go figure!
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Anonymous
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Re: So...
That's interesting...I hadn't noticed that but as you say, that's what it is. I think that a couple of years ago it was 8mg + 500mg + caffeine but I could be mistaken. Mrs L was in a lot of pain for over a year waiting for a diagnosis and op, and I got fairly clued-up on what we could buy, and where (we don't have a doctor so OTC is handy). In Spain we could usually buy 30mg + 500mg OTC despite the box stating that a script is needed. In France, I found a tame doctor who issued an unlimited repeat script for 30mg + 500 mg but the law in Italy requires that the pharmacy retains the script if codeine is present....no repeats permitted at all.
But even the highly-regulated UK is weird when it comes to opiates.... when I was nursing my parents through terminal cancer we used to be able to buy oral morphine (Oramorph) as a POM (i.e. an ordinary prescription which could even be a repeat, I think) whereas any other form of mophine (e.g. the enteric coated time-release pills) was a CD (controlled drug) and that was a real pain to get as the pharmacist had records to fill out. More bizarrely, the Oramorph had a much greater risk of causing dependency because it entered the bloodstream far more quickly -- a much greater 'rush' than the tablets.
There doesn't seem to be any consistency anywhere. I suppose there is a case for allowing all opiates to be sold freely OTC (P) since they can only harm the user (unless he poisons someone with them). What would be the result, I wonder, of putting all opiates onto the General Sales List (i.e. available freely without any control by the pharmacist)? It would be like a lottery win for addicts but would they use more? Would more people become addicted? It would certainly finish the black market for opiates.
That's interesting...I hadn't noticed that but as you say, that's what it is. I think that a couple of years ago it was 8mg + 500mg + caffeine but I could be mistaken. Mrs L was in a lot of pain for over a year waiting for a diagnosis and op, and I got fairly clued-up on what we could buy, and where (we don't have a doctor so OTC is handy). In Spain we could usually buy 30mg + 500mg OTC despite the box stating that a script is needed. In France, I found a tame doctor who issued an unlimited repeat script for 30mg + 500 mg but the law in Italy requires that the pharmacy retains the script if codeine is present....no repeats permitted at all.
But even the highly-regulated UK is weird when it comes to opiates.... when I was nursing my parents through terminal cancer we used to be able to buy oral morphine (Oramorph) as a POM (i.e. an ordinary prescription which could even be a repeat, I think) whereas any other form of mophine (e.g. the enteric coated time-release pills) was a CD (controlled drug) and that was a real pain to get as the pharmacist had records to fill out. More bizarrely, the Oramorph had a much greater risk of causing dependency because it entered the bloodstream far more quickly -- a much greater 'rush' than the tablets.
There doesn't seem to be any consistency anywhere. I suppose there is a case for allowing all opiates to be sold freely OTC (P) since they can only harm the user (unless he poisons someone with them). What would be the result, I wonder, of putting all opiates onto the General Sales List (i.e. available freely without any control by the pharmacist)? It would be like a lottery win for addicts but would they use more? Would more people become addicted? It would certainly finish the black market for opiates.
nathanlee
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Re: So...
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Simple really, isnt it? Just dont take codiene with you.
Why do you need it?
Plenty of other painkillers around and the use I used to get prescribed with it, was coughing, one of the best cough suppresants, if not the best.
Very hard to get a doctor to prescibe it these days anyway.
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Yup, ketamine wasn't on that list and that's easily available from any student town.
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Simple really, isnt it? Just dont take codiene with you.
Why do you need it?
Plenty of other painkillers around and the use I used to get prescribed with it, was coughing, one of the best cough suppresants, if not the best.
Very hard to get a doctor to prescibe it these days anyway.
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Yup, ketamine wasn't on that list and that's easily available from any student town.