Clyde Estuary - Leisure Vessel Charge for Use

[Aja]

Do those boat clubs have some vested interest in helping Peel Ports (e.g. do they rent their land from Peel Ports?). The sentiment from Clyde clubs and marinas seems to be one of unhappiness so I doubt anyone is going to offer to help them. Potentially without Peel Ports "cooperation" staging large races in the Clyde might be difficult, but perhaps a fee for races would have been more acceptable.

Racing on the Clyde is all but moribund, although dinghy racing and sailing of boats under 8m might suddenly become popular!

 

[ylop]

6m I think was the cut off?

 

[Bodach na mara]

I am grateful to dgadee in post#117 for the link. I lost the will to live briefly before skimming it to the conclusion and it reminded me of why I never became a lawyer. I pity those people who must wade through this sort of document and make sense of it. I also despair of the authors, for their inability to say, in simple terms, what they mean.

At the heart of all this lies the history of conservancy of the waters and what was actually intended in such legislation that exists. Ther seems little doubt that the intention in the creation of the original conservators was to provide an organisation that would develop and maintain the waterway for use by commercial shipping, and as such for the benefit of trade, commerce and industry of the local area. Previous conservators have taken only a benevolent interest in leisure maritime activities.

The record of Peel Ports in these respects suggests that they are unfit to be entrusted with such a mission. They are primarily a property owning company with only one aim; making money. They are in control of several competing port authorities and it seems that they will not hesitate to run down installations and sell off valuable resources if it is to their financial benefit.

 

[dgadee]

Judgments used to be short. Then word processing came along. Then parties uploaded skeleton arguments to the court. The end result is the judge can copy and paste.

The 2010 order, giving new powers to the Environment Agency, was a Statutory Instrument - a means of changing law by the back door with (usually) little discussion or debate.

 

[dunedin]

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The document in Post 1 explicitly says it will not (£75+vat) - although I confess I had remembered that as £75 inc vat.

Apologies and thanks for the correction - so £90 for the summer months.

Of course many boats like ours are only in the Clyde in the winter months, and migrate NW for the summer. Wonder if there would be a winter only reduction?

 

[Porthandbuoy]

Looks like Rhu marina, and moorings in the Gareloch and Loch Long are outside of Peel Ports jurisdiction. Or am I missing something?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sQFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw27xWolkqpwiu5aa8CjK4b_

 

[awol]

Looks like Rhu marina, and moorings in the Gareloch and Loch Long are outside of Peel Ports jurisdiction. Or am I missing something?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...sQFnoECDUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw27xWolkqpwiu5aa8CjK4b_

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You're missing the relatively recent court case where PP were allowed to charge "conservancy" on a tanker parked at Finnart and used as a storage tank.